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Old 07-12-2008, 03:20 AM
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I want to know if there are settings I can adjust for the Vudu screens (their user interface). I have an old fashioned 27" tube (non-HDTV), I know that's weird given the wonderful HDTV's out there now. However, don't want to upgrade by Television give the majority of television broadcast is still in SDTV. The Vudu user interface is fuzzy (using the default setting of boxed (like the widescreen), movies look fine; it's just the Vudu screens which are fuzzy. Thanks!
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Old 07-12-2008, 05:07 AM
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I've expereinced the same thing, as one of my Vudu's is attached to an SDTV. The interface on an older TV is a compromise that you just have to live with at this point. I can tell you that you'll love it when you eventually move up to a newer TV capable of displaying all your Vudu has to offer.
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Old 07-12-2008, 07:18 AM
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More and more content is in HD on TV. And I think even normal SD content looks better with an HD set. SD sets just don't have the resolution for the Vudu graphics.
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Old 07-12-2008, 07:25 AM
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I want to know if there are settings I can adjust for the Vudu screens (their user interface). I have an old fashioned 27" tube (non-HDTV), I know that's weird given the wonderful HDTV's out there now. However, don't want to upgrade by Television give the majority of television broadcast is still in SDTV. The Vudu user interface is fuzzy (using the default setting of boxed (like the widescreen), movies look fine; it's just the Vudu screens which are fuzzy. Thanks!
I have used all the interfaces on the VUDU against both standard TV's and those that are capable of 1080i and I agree that the composite or S-Video interface the VUDU's menus are a bit fuzzy. When you think about it how many scan lines are actually used on a standard TV set? Out of 525 that the NTSC specification defines you average about 480 and not every broadcast contains all those lines.

Standard 4:3 sets have supportable resolution of 720?480 (345,600 pixels). HD Sets labeled 720p have a resolution of 1280?720 (921,600 pixels), and 1080i/p sets have a resolution of 1920?1080 (1,382,400 / 2,073,600 pixels).

You can see by the pixel counts that a standard NTSC picture has about 2/3 less pixels that a entry level 720p HD set does and that is where you are loosing the details of the menus on the VUDU. VUDU has gone to great lengths to make sure that the VUDU will work on analogue sets and the movies still look great on these TV's.
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Old 07-12-2008, 08:44 AM
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On the other hand, if your set can display 480p, SD looks pretty darn good.

Older TVs, of course, can't, they're all going to be the old 480i standard. But the VUDU does a great job with SD even with just the minimal improvement.
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Old 07-14-2008, 05:50 AM
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Thanks for all the assistance. I was still hoping for some way to adjust the image of the GUI of Vudu for an SDTV. I work for Best Buy (was in home theatre for 4 years), so I'm quite aware of the resolutions of EDTV and HDTV. It just difficult for me to believe their isn't a simple fix Vudu could provide to adjust this image for SDTV. A SDTV image (analog) looks horrible on an HDTV, a digital SDTV looks better, but it's still blurry. Hell, even HDTV images vary by cable provider (due to compression rates). The best HDTV signal right now is still your local network as it's over the air and non-compressed. I can't tell you the number of people who return HDTV's because they don't have HDTV service or the program content they watch is not in HDTV. Nieslen (as of 11/26/07) estimated only 11.3% of the 112.8 million home in the US were equipped with HDTV's. So they're are still more SDTVs than HDTVs in US homes. It's something I would have thought Vudu would address. Here is the article on the HDTV penetration: http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6504745.html. I hope Vudu may try to provide some sort of fix.
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Old 07-14-2008, 09:11 AM
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It A SDTV image (analog) looks horrible on an HDTV, a digital SDTV looks better, but it's still blurry.
I am confused now on what you are asking for. Are you asking that the SD image form VUDU look good on a HD set when its not using HD intefaces (HDMI, Compoent)? Who would run such a configuration?
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Old 07-14-2008, 09:27 AM
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I am confused now on what you are asking for. Are you asking that the SD image form VUDU look good on a HD set when its not using HD intefaces (HDMI, Compoent)? Who would run such a configuration?
Not very common, but I can see someone on a budget with an older set, with one set of HD inputs, maybe component only, who would rather not spend the money on a switch. Of course, I think the Vudu is the most deserving of one coveted HDMI input, but that's my opinion.

Also, to the OP, please remember that the Vudu can only output 480p over component due to licensing restrictions. To get full 1080 resolution, you need to use HDMI.

While I have to admit that on my secondary TV, an old 25" CRT, the menus and metadata are not easy to read, I do find them legible from ~10 feet.
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Old 07-14-2008, 03:12 PM
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Sorry for all of the confusion. Here is the situation, I have Vudu hooked up to a 27" tube with composite video cables. The SD movies I rent/buy look great on this TV. However, the Vudu interface (where I scroll through the movies and other content available prior to renting/buying a movie) looks fuzzy. I know it looks great on when hooked to a HDTV, as I've seen it. However, I was hoping Vudu had a setting to adjust the picture for their interface (Vudu screens - everything prior to watching a movie) for a SDTV. I know I can stretch it to fill the screen (4 x 3) for the movies, but how about for their screens/interface.
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You are correct. But the fact is that it's a high res UI and the graphics just don't port well to 480i. There's not much that can be done. Sorry...
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