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Why are hdx 1080p 3D movies displaying only in 720p??

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    Why are hdx 1080p 3D movies displaying only in 720p??

    I was just about to shell out some money for the toy story movies in 3D! But was a bit underwhelmed at the PQ.

    I was exiting out and accidentally hit the info button on my tv remote, when I saw the output was 720p.

    I know I selected HDX 1080p, and for $20, it darn well better be 1080p

    What the heck is happening?? I was so excited, finally thinking I'd found a service to replace the need to go overboard with 3D prices.

    Can someone give some answers here? I saw elsewhere that this was a problem way back in January.

    Thanks.

    Nick

    #2
    Re: Why are hdx 1080p 3D movies displaying only in 720p??

    I just checked and it's certainly showing 1080. Every movie I try, nothing works.

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      #3
      Re: Why are hdx 1080p 3D movies displaying only in 720p??

      What device do you use for VUDU playback? If I understand you correctly, your output is always 720P, no matter which movie you select (2D, 3D), right?

      Normally every BDP has some Display settings that control your output resolution. Can you please check your settings and let us know?

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        Re: Why are hdx 1080p 3D movies displaying only in 720p??

        Ps3.

        All other 2D (to clarifiy) movies play in 1080p through vudu,

        ONLY the 3D movies show up as 720p.

        I just tested again and all of the other HDX 1080p movies come through as 1080p

        3d comes in as 720p

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          #5
          Re: Why are hdx 1080p 3D movies displaying only in 720p??

          And to confirm, my PS3 is using 1080p/60hz as its output, all is good on the settings front.

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            #6
            Re: Why are hdx 1080p 3D movies displaying only in 720p??

            Yes, this is a PS3 limitation. They do not allow 1080P 3D for games, and VUDU is treated as a game. We are working on getting better 3D support from Sony. I think we have a few other threads about this in the forum.

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              #7
              Re: Why are hdx 1080p 3D movies displaying only in 720p??

              Ah, possibly. But it's not possible to search ps3 and 3d on the forums natively

              That makes sense as there is the game limitation on 3D, and I can see the technical reasons why Vudu is treated like a game.

              However if I'd have shelled out $60ish on 3 movies, I'd be pretty angry. It's not described anywhere about that limitation.

              Is the image quality of 720p retained for both images, or are we dealing with 2 360p pictures?

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                #8
                Re: Why are hdx 1080p 3D movies displaying only in 720p??

                We are actually streaming 1080P at half resolution and then scale it to 720P.
                I am sorry about this. We do have a disclaimer somewhere. You can try to call our customer care and see if you can get a credit.

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                  #9
                  Re: Why are hdx 1080p 3D movies displaying only in 720p??

                  Ah so it's 540p each? I have seen a few different explanations as to how the 3d in these situations work.

                  No eta on what might be happening with Sony? I noticed that they now allow downloading, but I just didn't know if there was any direct discussion with them on this? If it gets resolved. There's no doubt I'll pick up more than a few movies

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                    #10
                    Re: Why are hdx 1080p 3D movies displaying only in 720p??

                    Some of our 1080P 3D movies are stored in top/bottom format (1920X540 per eye), others in left/right (960x1080 per eye).

                    So it is a higher resolution than 540P, which would only be 960x540.

                    Yes, we added download last week, no ETA on 1080P 3D yet. Will keep you posted.

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                      #11
                      Re: Why are hdx 1080p 3D movies displaying only in 720p??

                      It may only be 720P but boy does it look good. We watched Bolt 3D and it was like being in the theater only better. My setup is a PS3 and a Mits WD73640.

                      Yowser!

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                        #12
                        Re: Why are hdx 1080p 3D movies displaying only in 720p??

                        So I just nipped in and tested just for the heck of it and it seems that vudu is still limited to 720p for 3D.

                        Is that EVER going to change? Pretty please?

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                          Re: Why are hdx 1080p 3D movies displaying only in 720p??

                          Originally posted by andsoitgoes View Post
                          So I just nipped in and tested just for the heck of it and it seems that vudu is still limited to 720p for 3D.

                          Is that EVER going to change? Pretty please?
                          Is this on the PS3? The PS3 has a limitation of 720p for 3D (for apps/games, at least - the built-in BD player may be able to do 1080p 3D, I'm not sure). There are some TVs & BD players that support 1080p 3D with VUDU, though.

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                            #14
                            Re: Why are hdx 1080p 3D movies displaying only in 720p??

                            Yes as I mentioned earlier in the thread.

                            One of the other Vudu employees mentioned that you were working with Sony to remove the limitation for Vudu to be seen as a "game" for 3D performance, as 3d blu ray discs play at full 1080p.

                            Would really like to see this fixed.

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                              #15
                              Re: Why are hdx 1080p 3D movies displaying only in 720p??

                              Do you have the option of using 24 Hz format instead? Most of the Blu-ray movies in 3D have been published in a 24 frame format, so if you convert such sources to a digital stream, wouldn't keeping 24 frames, one, use less bandwidth, and two, at 24 Hz (48 Hz alternating 3D frames), be easier to support hardware-wise? I do not know if Sony has any issues with "games" running in 1080p/24 in 3D.

                              Everyone seems to be stuck using the legacy 60 Hz format for streaming videos even though most movies are being correctly published in a 24 frame format. Even games might benefit from a less stringent frame rate.

                              I am already a little leery of the quality loss injected into HDX compression, why add to it by converting 1080p/24 Blu-ray movies into 1080p/60 HDX streams?

                              I am sure 99.99% of those who can view 3D at 1080p will be able to do so at 1080p/24. Would anyone disagree?

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