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    AV Receiver Help

    Hey gang,

    My current receiver is going bad. The center channel is working intermittently and it's not the speaker wire or speaker from what I can tell. Sony just makes junk these days.

    Anyhow, I'm looking for a new receiver. My price range is about $500 to $600 and I'm looking at the following brands: Yamaha, Pioneer Elite, Denon.

    Anyone have any recommendation on a model or brand? I'm open to other brands as well.

    Things I want:

    - Plenty of optical and/or coaxial inputs
    - Component Video Switching
    - HDMI switching
    - 2nd room or zone capability

    Any suggestions?

    Jon

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    Yamaha Onkyo, and Denon are my choice. I was really upset with Pioneer when I purchased my Elite receiver and found that they didn't have discrete IR codes for AC-3 and other front panel operations.

    HDMI switching is attractive in a receiver right now but look at all the issues you have been having with a external switch. If some of the new HDMI features come out your receivers implementation of HDMI could be obsolete. At least make sure the receiver is compatable with HDMI 1.3a.

    Also conversion is important if you have devices that only have composit cables and/or compoent. Some of the higher end equipment will convert these siganls to HDMI.

    I am going to be looking for a new receiver for my setup also in the near future....so many models coming out and features to explore makes it a tough choice. I am currently looking at the Onkyo TX-SR805.

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      I bought my Onkyo 8 or 9 years ago, and I'm extremely happy with it, although I'm not a huge audiophile.

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        A friend has recommended the Denon AVR-2307CI or higher. This receiver looks really cool and does the conversion of all inputs to HDMI. That is absolutely awesome. I'm going to get that or possibly really splurge and get the AVR-3808CI. It has built in network control, etc. I found one place online that has really good pricing on the 3808 but I have no idea if it's gray market or what it is. Anyhow, I'm getting a new toy soon.

        My Treo 700W crashed over the weekend and I thought it was RIP. Thought I was going to have to buy that iPhone. Finally, I got it working again. Good thing cause now I can put the money to the receiver!

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          Well, tonight I purchased the Denon 2808. I talked to my buddy today about the 3808 and given the speakers I have right now, he thinks it was probably too much. And a lot of the extras it had was more like ability to stream audio over your network, etc. I already have at least 3 devices that will do just that so that wasn't really needed.

          The 2808 was a good middle ground. It's HDMI 1.3 compatible and upconverts all video inputs to up to 1080p and sends them over HDMI. It should do well.

          List price on this puppy is $1200. I searched online and the best price I found was $950. I ended up at Magnolia at my local BestBuy told them that I could get the receiver for $950 online and that I was also confident that Abt would give me the same price. The sales guys didn't blink an eye and said, "OK." So after $30 in Reward Zone coupons, my price was $920 before tax!

          I've got it most of the way hooked up (what a pain in the backside is my AV cabinet! ). I've managed to play DD5.1 audio from my LG Plasma through it. W/o any configuration (ie: straight out of the box), it already sounds better than my Sony ever did.

          I am really soured on Sony quality these days. Since 2002, I have purchased the following Sony products:

          AV Receiver
          27" Tube TV
          DVD Player (2)

          The receiver, the TV and one of the DVD players have died in 2 to 5 years. My Sony 13" TV from 1986 is still working great. They have gone way down hill...

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            Have fun with your new toy Jon. I hope this gets rid of that twitchy HDMI switch you have....

            On my side I just changed my mind. I found the Onkyo TX-SR705 came out and it showing at Frys for 799 but there is a $150 savings on it. Final cost 649. I begging the wife to let me get this deal....

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              Originally posted by RonV View Post
              Have fun with your new toy Jon. I hope this gets rid of that twitchy HDMI switch you have....

              On my side I just changed my mind. I found the Onkyo TX-SR705 came out and it showing at Frys for 799 but there is a $150 savings on it. Final cost 649. I begging the wife to let me get this deal....
              Yeah, no longer do I need the HDMI switch! But don't tell anyone...

              Anyhow, it's pretty cool. I have all my video inputs running into the Denon now and switch all to HDMI. I've got 2 AV inputs on my TV, 2 component inputs, 2 coax inputs and 2 HDMI inputs. With the new setup, I'm using 1 coax for the cable and 1 HDMI connection. Everything is routed through the Denon.

              And interestingly enough, everything I run is now HDMI or component video, and for the audio it's either HDMI, coax or toslink. So I am not using a single analog connection on this new system! OK, I am using the second zone output to my zone two amplifier for upstairs (I need new speakers up there...hmmm...)...

              So here's my equipment list:

              Vudu - HDMI
              Upconvert DVD Player (LG) - HDMI
              Roku Soundbridge M2000 - Coax output to Denon, analog output to Slingbox
              Replay 5040 DVR - Component o/p to Denon, optical o/p to Denon
              Roku HD-1000 Photobridge - Component o/p to Slingbox with pass through to Denon. coax audio o/p to Denon
              Comcast Cable box - Component output to HD-1000 (pass-through), coax audio o/p to Denon
              AppleTV - component video to Denon, optical audio to Denon
              LG 50PC1DR Plasma - optical audio o/p to Denon, HDMI input from Denon

              Still amazing the rat's nest of cables....

              The Denon also has an iPod dock available to purchase, which I seriously do NOT need (not with 3 devices that can stream audio) and it has an XM tuner that can be purchased for it for only $30. I'm thinking about that one...I get most of the XM channels via a program on the HD-1000 that streams the XM online streams via SlimServer. Gets most except for things like Fox, CNN, the sports channels, etc. And I'm going to need to add a sub for the XM in our Honda Odyssey. Our "free" 20 month subscription after we bought the car just stopped being "free." Still almost 2 years of complimentary service is pretty good...So I'm not sure if I want to add a third XM radio sub at this point (I have XM in my ML430- was one of the first 50,000 or so - Jan 2002).

              Jon

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                Originally posted by RonV View Post
                Yamaha Onkyo, and Denon are my choice. I was really upset with Pioneer when I purchased my Elite receiver and found that they didn't have discrete IR codes for AC-3 and other front panel operations.

                HDMI switching is attractive in a receiver right now but look at all the issues you have been having with a external switch. If some of the new HDMI features come out your receivers implementation of HDMI could be obsolete. At least make sure the receiver is compatable with HDMI 1.3a.

                Also conversion is important if you have devices that only have composit cables and/or compoent. Some of the higher end equipment will convert these siganls to HDMI.

                I am going to be looking for a new receiver for my setup also in the near future....so many models coming out and features to explore makes it a tough choice. I am currently looking at the Onkyo TX-SR805.

                Hi Ron,


                I just wanted to let you know that Pioneer Elite receivers do indeed have discrete codes for all of their opperations. If you go to their website and browse under custom install you'll see these options. Link included below (pdf) is the IR codes for the VSX-92.

                http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pi...SX92TXH_IR.pdf

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                  Originally posted by Stratus78 View Post
                  Hi Ron,


                  I just wanted to let you know that Pioneer Elite receivers do indeed have discrete codes for all of their opperations. If you go to their website and browse under custom install you'll see these options. Link included below (pdf) is the IR codes for the VSX-92.

                  http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pi...SX92TXH_IR.pdf

                  Thanks for the info...I just recently demoted my pioneer to the bedroom and replaced it with a Yamaha YSP-4000. I did have some of th discrete codes when I was using my Pronto remote but just not all of them and back then getting pioneer to publish the list was like pulling teeth. I was able to import most of my codes from the pronto into my harmony and I'll give the other a try from your link.

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                    So far I have the Vudu, Tivo HD and an Oppo dvd universal player connected via HDMI to an Onkyo receiver. The only device I'm missing is being able to stream music. The Tivo has the desktop where I can send Mp3 formated music from the Itunes but I am looking for much more then that. so far I have just been looking at the Idocks. Any suggestions or tips would be great.

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                      I got a squeeze box last year to stream music to my receiver - works great! ...and logitech just announced the next version, looks pretty nice too.

                      Hagen.

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                        Hagen's tip on the Squeezebox is a good one. Nice player. I have two of the Roku Soundbridges. They also work quite well and I think the interface is a little easier to configure and get around with than the Slim Devices units. The Slim units might give you a little more options of what you can do, but you can use the SlimServer software with the Rokus. I've always been torn between the two brands. I ended up with the Roku units because a Tweeter near me was being closed and I got mine for unbelievably ridiculous prices!

                        I know one of the other forum members has a couple Soundbridges he wants to sell. I think it's Mebby. You might want to send him a PM.

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                          Ok Thanks

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                            #14
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                            I have followed this thread with great interest. I have to agree with other here that Sony has lost its polish. When you move up to this class of products there is very little difference between brands. Making a good choice often boils down to personal preferences for sound color and picking the right feature set to suit your needs. I spent 16 years in Hollywood recording studios before moving into the integration contractor realm. I have spent the past 26 years building every sort of entertainment facility from production houses to turnkey network call letter television stations. The one constant that I have seen over the years is that end users frequently try to reproduce content that is not in the delivered stream. Whether you are talking about audio beyond the frequency range stored on the medium or video of higher resolution than that stored on the tape of disc. This thing of up converting everything to 1080p is one of the worst I have experienced. I have found that taking a 400line DVD beyond 720p is very ugly viewing no matter who created the up converter. I always enjoy viewing or listening to material at its original resolution when ever possible. So, always keep this in mind when choosing your hardware. How good does it look or sound at its original point.
                            Enjoy your home media environment the way those of us who created it intended it to be. Regards, Darrell

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                              When you have a display that has a native resoltuion of 1920x1080P you have no choice but to convert everything to 1920x1080P.(or 1280x720P for a 720P display, etc),
                              This has always been the case with displays that only show one resolution.

                              I'm not about to have a TV for viewing 480i DVDs, a 720P display for 720P content, a 1080i display for 1080i content and also a 1080P display for 1080P content. That would make no sense.

                              The content, no matter what the original resolution, will have to be converted to the resolution of the display.

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