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    using mac mini as a bridge for vudu?

    i currently have my vudu wired (which is running across the floor to my main computer). i know that i can get a wireless game adapter to communicate with my wireless router, but...

    i already have a mac mini in my entertainment center which is communicating with my wireless router. any possibility of wiring the vudu to the mini (and make it perform like a wired bridge)? have i gone crazy?

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    Re: using mac mini as a bridge for vudu?

    Originally posted by yobigpapa View Post
    i currently have my vudu wired (which is running across the floor to my main computer). i know that i can get a wireless game adapter to communicate with my wireless router, but...

    i already have a mac mini in my entertainment center which is communicating with my wireless router. any possibility of wiring the vudu to the mini (and make it perform like a wired bridge)? have i gone crazy?
    You could. Is your Mini operating over WiFi? You could share the Airport connection to the ethernet port and then you'd be good to go. However, one thing to note, the Vudu would then be on an IP subnet handed out by the Mini. That isn't a problem unless you want to use the network control feature of the Vudu. You need to be on the same LAN subnet to use that...

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      Re: using mac mini as a bridge for vudu?

      Originally posted by NA9D View Post
      You could. Is your Mini operating over WiFi? You could share the Airport connection to the ethernet port and then you'd be good to go. However, one thing to note, the Vudu would then be on an IP subnet handed out by the Mini. That isn't a problem unless you want to use the network control feature of the Vudu. You need to be on the same LAN subnet to use that...
      thanks! and, yes, my mini is operating over wifi to a linksys wireless router.


      two more questions (now i'm just getting greedy).

      1) what is the network control feature? is this for integrated installations? i'm assuming this won't impact me (for now) since i'm only managing the vudu directly.
      2) when you say "share the airport connection to the ethernet port," what exactly do you mean? i can probably figure this out on my own, but since you already seem to know the answer... is this just in the sharing configuration setup on the mac?

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        Re: using mac mini as a bridge for vudu?

        1.) Network control is for controlling the Vudu via TCP/IP. You could run a ruby script on your desktop or laptop and send commands to the Vudu. There are people on these forums creating scripts and programs to do this. This is a new thing in version 1.1 of the firmware.

        2.) For setting up the internet sharing you would go into your system preferences and select "Sharing." If you are using Leopard, you'd go down to the "Internet Sharing" service and check it. You would then be given some options on the right hand side. You'd selection: Share your Connection from Air Port to Ethernet. Then you should be good to go.

        Tiger has similar configuration, the sharing preferences pane just looks different. I think there's a tab you go to in Tiger (I've upgraded all my machines so I can't tell you now). But you could certain find it out on Apple's site I am sure...

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          Re: using mac mini as a bridge for vudu?

          Originally posted by NA9D View Post
          1.) Network control is for controlling the Vudu via TCP/IP. You could run a ruby script on your desktop or laptop and send commands to the Vudu. There are people on these forums creating scripts and programs to do this. This is a new thing in version 1.1 of the firmware.

          2.) For setting up the internet sharing you would go into your system preferences and select "Sharing." If you are using Leopard, you'd go down to the "Internet Sharing" service and check it. You would then be given some options on the right hand side. You'd selection: Share your Connection from Air Port to Ethernet. Then you should be good to go.

          Tiger has similar configuration, the sharing preferences pane just looks different. I think there's a tab you go to in Tiger (I've upgraded all my machines so I can't tell you now). But you could certain find it out on Apple's site I am sure...
          thanks. i have tiger on one machine and leopard on another... i'll figure it out.

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            Re: using mac mini as a bridge for vudu?

            Someone else just reported on doing this same thing and having a problem. I'm not sure it will work now that I think about it. Doing the connection through the Mac Mini's shared connection is going to result in a double NAT. I don't think the P2P protocol is going to traverse that double NAT too well and I think there might be problems with it. Maybe Greg from Vudu can chime in and give some insight, but I'm thinking this might now work.

            YBP, try this out and see what happens and let us know if it works or does not work...

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              Re: using mac mini as a bridge for vudu?

              Originally posted by NA9D View Post
              Someone else just reported on doing this same thing and having a problem. I'm not sure it will work now that I think about it. Doing the connection through the Mac Mini's shared connection is going to result in a double NAT. I don't think the P2P protocol is going to traverse that double NAT too well and I think there might be problems with it. Maybe Greg from Vudu can chime in and give some insight, but I'm thinking this might now work.

              YBP, try this out and see what happens and let us know if it works or does not work...
              I'm not sure how Mac OS X handles this, but there's a good chance it works: double NAT'ing is supported. I'd definitely give it a try!

              -- Greg

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                Re: using mac mini as a bridge for vudu?

                Originally posted by Greg View Post
                I'm not sure how Mac OS X handles this, but there's a good chance it works: double NAT'ing is supported. I'd definitely give it a try!

                -- Greg
                The Mac gives out an address on the 192.168.2.xxx subnet where the Mac is 192.168.2.1.

                Now, I'm not sure how it handles the firewalling aspect of things...

                Jon

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                  Re: using mac mini as a bridge for vudu?

                  Originally posted by NA9D View Post
                  The Mac gives out an address on the 192.168.2.xxx subnet where the Mac is 192.168.2.1.

                  Now, I'm not sure how it handles the firewalling aspect of things...

                  Jon
                  That's the part I'm curious about. My guess (I don't have a Mac - please don't hold it against me Jon ) is that it is built on top of the BSD Packet Filter interface. There is probably a UI Dialog Box to set up IP forwarding and NAT.

                  If a Mac expert knows, feel free to help!

                  -- Greg

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                    Re: using mac mini as a bridge for vudu?

                    Originally posted by Greg View Post
                    That's the part I'm curious about. My guess (I don't have a Mac - please don't hold it against me Jon ) is that it is built on top of the BSD Packet Filter interface. There is probably a UI Dialog Box to set up IP forwarding and NAT.

                    If a Mac expert knows, feel free to help!

                    -- Greg
                    Actually, there isn't a UI way to configure it other than to turn it on and select the NIC you are sharing from and the NIC you are sharing to. That's the issue. You probably could execute some Unix command line stuff, but it's not built into the OS interface that way...

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                      Re: using mac mini as a bridge for vudu?

                      I posted an update in the other forum but for the record when interface sharing is turned on its doing NAT and being a DHCP server. Double NAT and VUDU...no go based on my testing here at home.

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                        Re: using mac mini as a bridge for vudu?

                        Originally posted by RonV View Post
                        I posted an update in the other forum but for the record when interface sharing is turned on its doing NAT and being a DHCP server. Double NAT and VUDU...no go based on my testing here at home.
                        What kind of setup didn't work?

                        Vudu -> NAT1 -> NAT2 -> WAN is what I tested successfully.

                        -- Greg

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                          Re: using mac mini as a bridge for vudu?

                          When I did it at home it was

                          VUDU > NAT 1 (192.168.20.1) > NAT 2> (192.168.10.1) > Internet

                          My network stayed Red when I ran this configuration...



                          What yobigpapa looks like they are doing is:

                          VUDU > NAT 1 (Mac) > Airport > NAT 2 > Internet

                          The Mac is using its wireless interface as a client against the airport and sharing the ethernet with the VUDU.

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                            Re: using mac mini as a bridge for vudu?

                            Originally posted by RonV View Post
                            When I did it at home it was

                            VUDU > NAT 1 (192.168.20.1) > NAT 2> (192.168.10.1) > Internet

                            My network stayed Red when I ran this configuration...



                            What yobigpapa looks like they are doing is:

                            VUDU > NAT 1 (Mac) > Airport > NAT 2 > Internet

                            The Mac is using its wireless interface as a client against the airport and sharing the ethernet with the VUDU.

                            Hmm... that's surprising.
                            If you replace the VUDU box with a PC/laptop in that setup, are you able to browse the web?

                            Have you tried this setup with the VUDU box recently?

                            -- Greg

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                              Re: using mac mini as a bridge for vudu?

                              I don't know if this issue belong in this thread but here it is anyway. I just bought the Tivo HD (partly inspired by what I read in this forum) and I am using a wireless adaptor to connect to my router. The issue is the signal strength is low (9% vs 90%) and I wonder if it has anything with the Tivo and Vudu box being placed so close together? any feedback would be helpful.

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