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    Time to re-think strategies, capabilities mainly

    I think that Vudu is a great product, a solid product. It works well, it has a good interface, but has some issues getting content (that last part just takes time and some shrewd bizness).

    But if one is to look around at the competition, a clear delineation from what Vudu does and what the others do is becoming clearer and clearer each day.

    I think that eventually it's not the lack of titles that will kill Vudu, it's the lack of capabilities beyond just streaming movies. Let me give you some examples:
    Apple TV - Movies, TV, rentals and purchases. Plus ability to stream music and movies from other machines on your network. Integration with iTunes a HUGE plus. And the ability to watch YouTube is great. If you could just browse the web without hacking it...

    Popcorn Hour - I just heard about this today, but it appears to be very similar to the Apple TV, with many of the same capabilities. (Actually seeing this product come to market, thinking about it's feature set and who they're aiming for, made me realize that a company like this probably doesn't even consider Vudu a threat because of it's lack of features beyond rentals/purchases of movies/shows.)

    Sony Playstation 3 - Here's the one to really watch out for. Sony has said that movie downloads are coming, probably once HOME goes online. But the beauty of this box is that it can do 1080p, play Blu-Ray, stream content from other machines on your network, AND play the best looking games made for consoles today. Sony's taken their time to release all the features of this box, working on getting it right. The XBox crowd has railed against Sony for coming to market a year later than the 360, for lack of game titles - but Sony's been concentrating on QUALITY, not QUANTITY. A classier, cleaner UI, better exclusive platform games, open source friendly (you can install Linux, it's allowed and encouraged) - basically an overall more satisfying user experience. Oh, yeah, did I mention a really decent web browser (and if that's not enough, surf from your Linux boot on the same machine, using a BT keyboard and mouth on your couch). PS3 sales have finally overtaken 360 sales for the first month (Jan 08) and it's looking like 2008 is going to be THE YEAR of the PS3.

    XBox 360 - Netflix has hinted that streaming downloads are coming to 360 and PS3, plus who knows what else MS has up their sleeves. The XBox also pulls media from other machines on your network. Overall not as capable as the PS3, the 360 has MS's deep pockets behind it and their intense desire not to lose.
    The big question is, can Vudu be updated via software to have these capabilities? If not, I think that they'll eventually suffer because of lack of these other features. And lack of WiFi is a hit as well, as most of these boxes have it or it's an option.

    Vudu, I love your interface, your sexy little box, and your awesome remote. Can you become my all-in-one set top box (minus games of course)? Sad part is, even if Vudu can, my PS3 may be the only box for me in the long-run because it has the gaming capability. But then again, gaming's not for everyone.
    92
    Rentable TV Shows
    27.17%
    25
    Wi-Fi
    8.70%
    8
    Music/Movies from other machines on your network
    30.43%
    28
    Web Browsing
    5.43%
    5
    Social Networking (a la XBox Live)
    3.26%
    3
    Gaming
    2.17%
    2
    Keep improving the primary function ...A Great Movie Experience
    18.48%
    17
    Other (Post in this thread)
    4.35%
    4

    The poll is expired.


    #2
    Re: Time to re-think strategies, capabilities mainly

    Would this be better off in one of the public forums and not in the Evangelist forum?

    If so, one of the moderators may feel free to move it. Thanks!

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      #3
      Re: Time to re-think strategies, capabilities mainly

      I moved it to general discussion.

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        #4
        Re: Time to re-think strategies, capabilities mainly

        I voted for rentable shows and movies/music from the network. I'd love to see Vudu become a media extender and it's theoretically possible to do with a software upgrade. Vudu's resources are not infinite, so they can't work on all of our feature requests, but I hope that at some point when most-asked for rental/purchase functionality is implemented, they can work on adding extender functionality.

        In a way, it would be the opposite of AppleTV -- it started as a media extender (well, iTunes extender) and then got rental functionality while Vudu should be moving in the opposite direction - from rental box to extender.

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          #5
          Re: Time to re-think strategies, capabilities mainly

          I voted for movies/music over network but I think we have to be cautious and realistic on this one.

          If Vudu implements something like this then I want it to be slick and wide open. What I mean by wide open is that I'd like for it to be capable of streaming all sorts of media - not just limiting to a few codecs. Take a look at most media streamers - the user ends up sacrificing something or another just so they can stream the files to the machine.

          Then take a look at XBMC - it can handle whatever you through at it and it has a wonderful interface which is fully customizable. The only drawback is that it can't do HD. But as soon as the Linux port is complete it will no longer have that limitation.

          I guess what I'm saying is that if Vudu can't deliver a solid media streamer (for local network files) then I won't even use it. I'll just continue using XBMC. With a good universal remote (and the superb customizations that you can do with XBMC) I can switch between sources seamlessly so I don't necessarily have to have ONE box that can do it all. But if I'm going to have one box that can do it all then it really needs to do it ALL!

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            #6
            Re: Time to re-think strategies, capabilities mainly

            I basically agree with Mebby. It would be nice to play my home movies and photos that are on my network, but I wouldn't want to sacrifice even a small amount of convenience or user experience on the movie rental/purchase side of things.

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              #7
              Re: Time to re-think strategies, capabilities mainly

              I voted for rentable TV shows and other. Other would be an animation category. And also a second generation box with HDMI 1.3 that allowed for bitstreaming of the DD+ and possibly future lossless codecs.
              Otherwise I've been very happy with the VUDU box so far. I just wish something like this was around 6.5 years ago when I first started recording HD and timeshifting it.

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                #8
                Re: Time to re-think strategies, capabilities mainly

                Originally posted by JamesCzar View Post
                .....

                Sony Playstation 3 - Here's the one to really watch out for. Sony has said that movie downloads are coming, probably once HOME goes online. But the beauty of this box is that it can do 1080p, play Blu-Ray, stream content from other machines on your network, AND play the best looking games made for consoles today. Sony's taken their time to release all the features of this box, working on getting it right. The XBox crowd has railed against Sony for coming to market a year later than the 360, for lack of game titles - but Sony's been concentrating on QUALITY, not QUANTITY. A classier, cleaner UI, better exclusive platform games, open source friendly (you can install Linux, it's allowed and encouraged) - basically an overall more satisfying user experience. Oh, yeah, did I mention a really decent web browser (and if that's not enough, surf from your Linux boot on the same machine, using a BT keyboard and mouth on your couch). PS3 sales have finally overtaken 360 sales for the first month (Jan 08) and it's looking like 2008 is going to be THE YEAR of the PS3.

                XBox 360 - Netflix has hinted that streaming downloads are coming to 360 and PS3, plus who knows what else MS has up their sleeves. The XBox also pulls media from other machines on your network. Overall not as capable as the PS3, the 360 has MS's deep pockets behind it and their intense desire not to lose.
                The big question is, can Vudu be updated via software to have these capabilities? If not, I think that they'll eventually suffer because of lack of these other features. And lack of WiFi is a hit as well, as most of these boxes have it or it's an option.

                Vudu, I love your interface, your sexy little box, and your awesome remote. Can you become my all-in-one set top box (minus games of course)? Sad part is, even if Vudu can, my PS3 may be the only box for me in the long-run because it has the gaming capability. But then again, gaming's not for everyone.
                I think the 360 beats the PS3 in every way except for BD playback which the 360 doesn't have. I recently got a PAnasonic BD player which has been so much better than the PS3 for BD playback. Plus it can bitstream the advanced codecs which the PS3 will never be able to do. SO for me the PS3 doesn't have much use.
                Now if they do offer movie downloads soon I might keep the PS3 for that option, otherwise I want to get rid of it very soon. It's too big, puts out too much heat, and I hate the design since I can't put anything on top of it which wastes space. I've been using it since 2006 and am so happy that I on't need to rely on it any more.

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                  #9
                  Re: Time to re-think strategies, capabilities mainly

                  The most Important thing for me would be working hard to help the studios develop their business plan for the future digital deployment of their titles. All titles released for rental and purchase the same time they are at the rental stores would be great. I"m still seeing alot of titles I want to rent for sale only.

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                    #10
                    Re: Time to re-think strategies, capabilities mainly

                    Originally posted by TuffWoD View Post
                    The most Important thing for me would be working hard to help the studios develop their business plan for the future digital deployment of their titles. All titles released for rental and purchase the same time they are at the rental stores would be great. I"m still seeing alot of titles I want to rent for sale only.
                    I agree. No matter all the features available, the most important thing is having the highest number of movies available to rent at the earliest times.

                    But I still love new features

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                      #11
                      Re: Time to re-think strategies, capabilities mainly

                      Keep it as it is...A Great Movie Experiance
                      I think this option is a little skewed. It suggests that VUDU shouldn't do anymore with the product by saying Keep it as it is.

                      The question should be more like "Just keep improving VUDU as a Great Movie Experience".

                      Not to nit pick, but experiance is spelled wrong too.

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                        #12
                        Re: Time to re-think strategies, capabilities mainly

                        Originally posted by RobertHodge View Post
                        I think this option is a little skewed. It suggests that VUDU shouldn't do anymore with the product by saying Keep it as it is.

                        The question should be more like "Just keep improving VUDU as a Great Movie Experience".

                        Not to nit pick, but experiance is spelled wrong too.
                        That's a good point. However, regardless if Vudu has to drag customers kicking and screaming, they will continue to improve the product and add newer and improved features!

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                          #13
                          Re: Time to re-think strategies, capabilities mainly

                          Originally posted by RobertHodge View Post
                          I think this option is a little skewed. It suggests that VUDU shouldn't do anymore with the product by saying Keep it as it is.

                          The question should be more like "Just keep improving VUDU as a Great Movie Experience".

                          Not to nit pick, but experiance is spelled wrong too.
                          Just for the record, my original poll did not contain the last two options. Those were added by someone else (I assume the moderator) when this was moved from the Evangelist Forum to the General Forum. I don't think keeping the Vudu as it is should EVER be an option. I think all products that have the ability to grow, change, and adapt should always be improved. That's the beauty of a software-based product.

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                            #14
                            Re: Time to re-think strategies, capabilities mainly

                            Originally posted by NA9D View Post
                            That's a good point. However, regardless if Vudu has to drag customers kicking and screaming, they will continue to improve the product and add newer and improved features!
                            That was fast, thanks!!!

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                              #15
                              Re: Time to re-think strategies, capabilities mainly

                              Originally posted by JamesCzar View Post
                              Just for the record, my original poll did not contain the last two options. Those were added by someone else (I assume the moderator) when this was moved from the Evangelist Forum to the General Forum. I don't think keeping the Vudu as it is should EVER be an option. I think all products that have the ability to grow, change, and adapt should always be improved. That's the beauty of a software-based product.
                              Just like your Vudu is a "living" product that can change over time, so are the polls on this forum.....

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