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    #16
    Re: Vudu Image Quality Issues

    My apologies for what I thought was an obvious exageration of a poor quality source. I have only seen YouTube once and gave it up because of the awful quality. Vudu is not YouTube quality, but it is still far below DVD or hi-res source.
    The Kuro is configured according to the very detailed parameters on a thread on AVS. It works extremely well with the Samsung hi-res player. It supports 1080P natively.
    I played around last night, watching Bourne HD and also Elizabeth SD. I find the quality to be acceptable (heavy contouring but reasonable detail) in HD and unacceptable in SD. I tried setting Vudu to 1080I and it made no substantial difference. I adjusted the Kuro parameters and nothing came up better than the original set. The menuing screens of Vudu look fabulous. I honestly do not believe that it is the Kuro at fault here.
    I do not think of myself as a videophile, though I was an early adopter of LaserDisc back when. I love film and find that the poor quality takes away my involvement in the story.
    As I said in my original post, I think this is a Vudu issue due to bit rate compression. I had not looked into this enough before I bought the product based on my expectation that by streaming and caching Vudu would offer a high quality than compressed streaming video - close or equal to DVD. I think that is not the case and I would guess that Vudu is close in bit rate to other streaming video, perhaps including cable (I do not have any TV sources to know).
    I appreciate your comments and suggestions. They have made it clear that this is not a flaw in the hardware or configuration. I think Vudu is a great service with terrific interface and usability. It is not what I thought it was, so this is, ultimately, a matter of buyer's regret. No problem - I will put it into the guest bedroom on a 42" LCD where the artifacts will not be so visible. Thank you all.

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      #17
      Re: Vudu Image Quality Issues

      Sorry you feel so bummed about it. I'm still surprised you see what you seem to indicate is such poor quality. I have a 50" LG set and while it's not a 60" Pioneer, it's not that much worse in image quality. Others have Vudu on large projectors and don't see the problem either. I still wonder if you have a bum box or something.

      Vudu is broadcast HD quality and it is also approximate to DVD quality on SD. I don't know how you can say it's not acceptable.

      Anyhow, to each their own.

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        #18
        Re: Vudu Image Quality Issues

        Originally posted by NA9D View Post
        Vudu is broadcast HD quality and it is also approximate to DVD quality on SD. I don't know how you can say it's not acceptable.
        I never see the blockiness on the low detail images on DVD that I do on Vudu. However, the hight detail images look better on Vudu. If you focus on only the low detail images, I could see how you could come to that conclusion, especially if that really stuck out at you. Like I said, I noticed it but "graded" Vudu' picture quality on the overall quality, not just of the worst part.

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          #19
          Re: Vudu Image Quality Issues

          Originally posted by PNCD1 View Post
          I think this is a Vudu issue due to bit rate compression.
          Please note my ongoing signature.

          Regards

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            #20
            Re: Vudu Image Quality Issues

            Originally posted by redwein View Post
            I never see the blockiness on the low detail images on DVD that I do on Vudu. However, the hight detail images look better on Vudu. If you focus on only the low detail images, I could see how you could come to that conclusion, especially if that really stuck out at you. Like I said, I noticed it but "graded" Vudu' picture quality on the overall quality, not just of the worst part.
            I've seen blockiness on DVD. But maybe it's my equipment. But still, I don't think you can come close to saying that SD content on the Vudu is unwatchable.

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              #21
              Re: Vudu Image Quality Issues

              FAr from it. The SD content is decent. But It's SD and in general SD sucks since there is no detail in the image, whether from a DVD or broadcast SD. There is no detail compared to HD broadcasts. The HD from VUDU easily has much more detail than the SD DVDs. ANd I rank VUDU HD above broadcast HD quality because you don't get macroblocking like with all HD over broadcast TV. I've been watching HD since 2001, and broadcast TV always has macroblocking from bright flashes, fast movement and quick camera pans. While there is very litltle of this with VUDU HD that I have have watched. Plus I run my VUDU and broadcast sources through an Algolith HDMI flea(and a VP50pro) which does a good job reducing macroblocking, but I can still easily see it in almost every broadcast program I watch while i don't see it very often in the VUDU HD programming I've watched.

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                #22
                Re: Vudu Image Quality Issues

                Originally posted by aaronwt View Post
                an Algolith HDMI flea(and a VP50pro)
                Sorry for being a Grumpy Old Idiot, but what's a HDMI flea???

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                  #23
                  Re: Vudu Image Quality Issues

                  Originally posted by RobertHodge View Post
                  Sorry for being a Grumpy Old Idiot, but what's a HDMI flea???
                  It's something that will scratch your itch! Do a search for it. Aaron posted a link to it or better yet, Google it! It's cool. Wish I had the money to buy something like that.....

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                    #24
                    Re: Vudu Image Quality Issues

                    Originally posted by NA9D View Post
                    It's something that will scratch your itch! Do a search for it. Aaron posted a link to it or better yet, Google it! It's cool. Wish I had the money to buy something like that.....
                    I wish I did too. But I guess since I keep a car for 10 to 12 years that gives me some more money to spend on HD instead of having a car payment. I'll take HD any day over any type of vehicle.

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                      #25
                      Re: Vudu Image Quality Issues

                      Does anyone have a recommendation for a compression noise reduction box similar to the Algolith Flea HDMI? That looks like an older solution so there may be something "new and improved"!

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                        #26
                        Re: Vudu Image Quality Issues

                        Originally posted by PNCD1 View Post
                        Does anyone have a recommendation for a compression noise reduction box similar to the Algolith Flea HDMI? That looks like an older solution so there may be something "new and improved"!
                        You may want to also look on AVS Forum:

                        http://www.avsforum.com/

                        These guys are really into this type of stuff.

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                          #27
                          Re: Vudu Image Quality Issues

                          Originally posted by PNCD1 View Post
                          Does anyone have a recommendation for a compression noise reduction box similar to the Algolith Flea HDMI? That looks like an older solution so there may be something "new and improved"!
                          Nothing else unless you want to go into the 4 figures. The Algolith Flea HDMi does an excellent job using the REON processor and their proprietary algorithms.

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