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  • HeadHodge
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    Re: Question about Rent vs Purchase

    Originally posted by NA9D View Post
    I agree HD w/o DD5.1 = ripped off. But that's a provider issue!
    Well, that's one down and two to go!!

    My main point is that is that Enahanced Widescreen SD with Surround Sound, is not a common term. I didn't even know what it meant until I bought the box and rented a few (with my free credits).

    If someone went to the VUDU website and saw the term "DVD Quality Movies Available", that would make more sense to a lot of people. SD just has a 4:3 conotation (fuzzy with or without my contacts).

    I recognize that "technically" not all content distributed on DVD is "DVD Quality" the way I describe it (there is some real crap out there), but I'm just suggesting that until VUDU goes back to being a Tech Lab, it could do a better job of selling itself and it's product.

    Don't make me drive over to Santa Clara and confront the "Slice and Dice" marketing director!! I could turn into the Incredible Bulk when I get angry!!!

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  • aaronwt
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    Originally posted by NA9D View Post
    Hodgey, Hodgey, Hodgey,

    Vudu is simply matching the terminology in the movie industry. Full Screen is intended to mean a 4:3 sized screen. You see, traditionally, a widescreen movie wouldn't not fill up the TV sets we all had. So the term letterbox and full screen were adopted. Now, the full screen moniker has stuck but letterbox has become "widescreen."

    Also, SD Widescreen movies are not necessarily in Surround sound. Additionally, you can't say that SD Widescreen = DVD quality while Full Screen does not. There are a lot of DVDs made in 'full screen."

    I agree HD w/o DD5.1 = ripped off. But that's a provider issue!
    Fulll screen only references the video. I have some Hd DVDs that are in HD Full screen and the audio ranges anywhere from 1.0 to 5.1.

    I also used to have some widescreen DVD titles in 1.0 as well. The video content has nothing to do with the audio content. Although ideally I would personally like 7.1 audio.

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  • NA9D
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    Originally posted by HeadHodge View Post
    I've suggested several times that VUDU change their terminology and are doing a disservice to themselves by not doing so.

    Full Screen should be changed to SD/stereo.

    SD Widescreen should be changed to DVD Quality/Surround Sound.

    HD with Stereo should be changed to RIPPED-OFF!!
    Hodgey, Hodgey, Hodgey,

    Vudu is simply matching the terminology in the movie industry. Full Screen is intended to mean a 4:3 sized screen. You see, traditionally, a widescreen movie wouldn't not fill up the TV sets we all had. So the term letterbox and full screen were adopted. Now, the full screen moniker has stuck but letterbox has become "widescreen."

    Also, SD Widescreen movies are not necessarily in Surround sound. Additionally, you can't say that SD Widescreen = DVD quality while Full Screen does not. There are a lot of DVDs made in 'full screen."

    I agree HD w/o DD5.1 = ripped off. But that's a provider issue!

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  • aaronwt
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    Originally posted by redwein View Post
    How were you watching movies on your TV in HD for the last 7 years? There is a much bigger delta between SD and HD television than there is between DVD and HD movies. I totally agree on the television side. SD television is painful to watch. But DVD quality movies (and Vudu's SD is really that or better for the most part), still seem entirely watchable.
    I have over 1TB of movies I recorded from OTA back then, Like Raiders, Temple of Doom, etc. HD movies, just recorded from OTA HD broadcasts. At one point in 2003, I had a PC with 12 hard drives in it for 3TB of storage. The 250GB drives cost $300 back then.
    I used to have more but I've deleted alot of content or lost alot when a couple of drives accidentally had a defrag program run on it. The defrag program couldn't handle the larger files from the HD recordings I had on it so it messed up the files and the movies won't play properly now. I had two HiPix cards I bought in the Summer of 2001 for HD recordings. I had been time shifting my TV watching since 1984 so there was no way I wanted to watch HD in real time. The HiPix cards were basically a digital VCR. Not sophisticated like everything is now with the guide data.

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  • HeadHodge
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    Re: Question about Rent vs Purchase

    Originally posted by redwein View Post
    How were you watching movies on your TV in HD for the last 7 years? There is a much bigger delta between SD and HD television than there is between DVD and HD movies. I totally agree on the television side. SD television is painful to watch. But DVD quality movies (and Vudu's SD is really that or better for the most part), still seem entirely watchable.
    I've suggested several times that VUDU change their terminology and are doing a disservice to themselves by not doing so.

    Full Screen should be changed to SD/stereo.

    SD Widescreen should be changed to DVD Quality/Surround Sound.

    HD with Stereo should be changed to RIPPED-OFF!!

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  • redwein
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    Originally posted by aaronwt View Post
    After 7 years of watching HD content I'd like everything to be HD but unfortunately everything isn't. But for almost all movies, if it isn't in HD, I won't watch it.
    How were you watching movies on your TV in HD for the last 7 years? There is a much bigger delta between SD and HD television than there is between DVD and HD movies. I totally agree on the television side. SD television is painful to watch. But DVD quality movies (and Vudu's SD is really that or better for the most part), still seem entirely watchable.

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  • RonV
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    Originally posted by HeadHodge View Post

    And on top of that, isn't there some sort of rule of thumb that says technology must improve by a factor 10 times or more to claim it as an improvement that consumers would be willing to adopt??
    You are correct there. When DVD came out and the cost of the players came down to the sub 200 range the players flew off the shelves since the quality of the DVD was far superior to VHS in both video and audio. Also the size of storing the media along with not having to rewind. Most households equipment didn't have to be ungraded to get this improvement in quality. Just just connected the DVD player to the receiver and TV and they got the benefit. It was a "Home Run" in the world of consumer adoption.

    HD in the DVD market only has superior video and audio quality under certain conditions. And to see that quality the average consumer will have to put up with players that are increasing in price not decreasing. Also standards that are in flux.

    To experience HD fully they would have to upgrade their TV's to HDMI/CP 50" and larger panels. Also their audio receivers need upgrading to support the new DD and DTS standards along with 7.1 speaker systems A rather expensive proposition for the unwashed masses.

    Finally the media that doesn't have the 5.00 DVD pricing of SD DVD's on Tuesday's when the stores are dumping their inventory. The average cost of the Blu-Ray disc now is about 29.95 with Tuesday releases coming in at 24.95.

    So the formula of HD in the DVD market does match the formula of the VHS to DVD migration. I would say right now the market is in the "Hit By Pitch" mode and only the A/V elite are taking advantage. The rest are in the dugout saying "Show me the magic coach."

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  • HeadHodge
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    Originally posted by aaronwt View Post
    HD is a big deal for any movie. My first, second and third choice if for HD, SD would be my fourth choice. After 7 years of watching HD content I'd like everything to be HD but unfortunately everything isn't. But for almost all movies, if it isn't in HD, I won't watch it.
    Although I will say prior to VUDU around 95% of the content I watched was HD, since getting the VUDU I've probably dropped that to 90%.
    I'm not having much luck at getting my point across, but I agree with mebby that VUDU SD content is really, really good and compares favorably with DVD media content.

    So for a drama or anything that doesn't involve lot's of special effects or action, how much value add is there for that type of movie in HD?? Maybe, being able to see their nose hairs or pores??

    And on top of that, isn't there some sort of rule of thumb that says technology must improve by a factor 10 times or more to claim it as an improvement that consumers would be willing to adopt??

    After watching both VUDU SD and HD content I'm not really convinced they have acheived that seperation of quality to warrant the extra cost.

    Regards

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  • aaronwt
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    Originally posted by mebby View Post
    Dude... is HD REALLY that big of a deal for a movie like Juno?? I can understand for something like Transformers but Juno???

    And plus - the SD content on Vudu is really, really good quality stuff (IMHO).
    HD is a big deal for any movie. My first, second and third choice if for HD, SD would be my fourth choice. After 7 years of watching HD content I'd like everything to be HD but unfortunately everything isn't. But for almost all movies, if it isn't in HD, I won't watch it.
    Although I will say prior to VUDU around 95% of the content I watched was HD, since getting the VUDU I've probably dropped that to 90%.

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  • mebby
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    I totally agree with NA9D - the SD content on Vudu is flippin' sweet (to borrow a quote from Napoleon Dynamite).

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  • NA9D
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    Originally posted by bkushner View Post
    Point is the HD is there on Direct for $4 and SD on VUDU is $4 So if you had the choice HD or SD same price why would I pick SD? Also I already own Directv and don't have to pay $300
    I would venture the SD quality on Vudu is probably equal to or nearly so the HD quality on DirecTV. Also, just because something is broadbast in 720p or 1080i resolution does not mean that the source material is in that resolution.

    You decide what you want to do as it's your money. Vudu isn't the same product today it was six months ago and it will be different and better six months from now.

    I can tell you that there's some cool new features coming that I don't think DirecTV has. Plus I doubt DirecTV has the large library that Vudu has either.

    But the choice is yours.

    As for customer support, I think your concerns are well understood. Things don't move that fast with Hollywood and the licensing requirements different for all the different types of distribution out there. I can't answer the why's about the HD and it's not Vudu's policy to comment on agreements between them and their studios. But the fact is that this box was designed with HD in mind and the HD content is going to grow. You may think people are beating Vudu but I wouldn't be surprised if in six months Vudu has more SD and more HD content than all of them. That's my own guess and is not to be taken as a statement on Vudu strategy. Buy the box then whenever they have the HD content to suit you.

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  • bkushner
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    Point is the HD is there on Direct for $4 and SD on VUDU is $4 So if you had the choice HD or SD same price why would I pick SD? Also I already own Directv and don't have to pay $300

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  • mebby
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    Dude... is HD REALLY that big of a deal for a movie like Juno?? I can understand for something like Transformers but Juno???

    And plus - the SD content on Vudu is really, really good quality stuff (IMHO).

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  • bkushner
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    Found another movie I wanted to watch JUNO. Not in HD, however Directv has it in HD $4.99.

    I think my VUDU is going back, at least until they get some more HD. I've voiced my concerns to customer support and don't feel this will be rectified anytime soon. As for as SD movies and quantity Vudu can't be beat, if it's HD everyone is beating them.

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  • NA9D
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    Originally posted by bkushner View Post
    Steve Jobs doesn't explain why Cable, and Sat companies have these in HD and Vudu doesn't and this is a Warner's title.
    I don't know. What I do know is that Vudu is very responsive and open to customer feedback. I would call customer service and voice your concern/displeasure.

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