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    While I'm overall a very happy and loyal VUDU user, one thing that would put me over the top for this service would be full access to the entire Criterion Collection. I am glad to see that there are about 35 Criterion Films available in the collections section, which is great, however, most of these are in SD and many of my favorites are not there at all. Seven Samurai anyone? One of the biggest selling points for Criterion is their faithful and unmatched remastering of class films. In the era of HD transfers, to have many of these films, especially those that are currently available on blu-ray, only offered in SD is a dealbreaker for me. As soon as I see this series expanded and available in HDX, I will be waiting and ready to put my money into starting a cloud collection. Of course, if they were added to D2D, I would be doubly grateful, but one step at a time. Anybody have any info on plans to partner with the Criterion Collection in the future?

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    I don't think the problem is with Criterion themselves as much as the fact that Criterion doesn't own any of the films in its catalog and instead licenses them.

    This means that Vudu would have to negotiate with each of the studios holding the films' rights in order to clear them, such as Toho, Studio-Canal, Universal, etc.


    All the Kurosawa stuff, for instance, is owned by Toho, which has been a notorious pain in the *** for Criterion to deal with.

    One such incident involved Criterion having to recall an early run of the Seven Samurai DVD because they included a small clip showing the film before and after its restoration, as Toho got upset at people knowing how badly the original elements had gotten under their care.

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      Re: Criterion Collection

      Originally posted by teke184 View Post
      I don't think the problem is with Criterion themselves as much as the fact that Criterion doesn't own any of the films in its catalog and instead licenses them.

      This means that Vudu would have to negotiate with each of the studios holding the films' rights in order to clear them, such as Toho, Studio-Canal, Universal, etc.


      All the Kurosawa stuff, for instance, is owned by Toho, which has been a notorious pain in the *** for Criterion to deal with.

      One such incident involved Criterion having to recall an early run of the Seven Samurai DVD because they included a small clip showing the film before and after its restoration, as Toho got upset at people knowing how badly the original elements had gotten under their care.
      Rather than start a new thread, this one seems apropos.

      I'd buy into this explanation except OTHER streaming services have more of the Criterion collection than Vudu.

      For example, the Satyajit Ray movies are in HD, in the Criterion restoration, at Amazon, and at Apple, for rental and for purchase, but not on Vudu.

      This makes me sad because Vudu has the best quality, and because streaming is hit or miss where I live, I like to download a rental and watch it off the hard drive -- and Vudu is the ONLY service offering that still (except for Amazon on a TIVO, if you have TIVO) on a TV interface. (Apple has it covered, for example, if you are downloading and watching a rental on an ipad, but that's not what I want for a home theater experience.)

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        Originally posted by vudun8 View Post
        While I'm overall a very happy and loyal VUDU user, one thing that would put me over the top for this service would be full access to the entire Criterion Collection. I am glad to see that there are about 35 Criterion Films available in the collections section, which is great, however, most of these are in SD and many of my favorites are not there at all. Seven Samurai anyone? One of the biggest selling points for Criterion is their faithful and unmatched remastering of class films. In the era of HD transfers, to have many of these films, especially those that are currently available on blu-ray, only offered in SD is a dealbreaker for me. As soon as I see this series expanded and available in HDX, I will be waiting and ready to put my money into starting a cloud collection. Of course, if they were added to D2D, I would be doubly grateful, but one step at a time. Anybody have any info on plans to partner with the Criterion Collection in the future?
        The more I look into it, the more it appears to be an Ultraviolet thing. Criterion doesn't participate. This is probably because of the myriad of agreements they have with each different studios, sometimes for each different title. This is probably NOT by choice.

        This appears to be an impediment that Apple and Amazon don't have -- since they don't support Ultraviolet (shame on them). But it also starts to explain why Apple and Amazon rent and sell HD titles (like the Indian classic restored by Criterion, The Big City) that Vudu doesn't carry.

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