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    Blu-ray vs digital HDX

    Does anyone know if blu-ray quality is better than hdx? Like a reasonable difference?

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    Re: Blu-ray vs digital HDX

    It depends on what your 'reasonable difference' is. An uncompressed Blu-ray .m2ts file can be 20-40GB, while a compressed HDX file is around 8GB (IIRC). In cutting a file size in half you are going to lose something, part of it will be the additional audio tracks, subtitles, etc, but most will be a 'loss' of video quality.

    For my purposes, HDX tends to be just fine (40inch 1080p TV, viewed at 8-12ft). I downconvert my non-UV movies from 1080p to 720p if I am storing them locally (takes it to around 2-4GB per movie), which still gives the 'High-Definition' look while saving space and allowing me to stream them to myself better.

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      Re: Blu-ray vs digital HDX

      Its somewhat like 256bit mp3 vs Audio CD, the disk will always be better, but the difference isn't enough for most people to really care, the convenience of mp3s trumps the better quality of using Audio CDs for most people.

      That being said, my ears really cannot tell a difference between mp3 and audio cd, but I can tell the difference between HDX and Blu-ray most of the time. It is more noticeable if you have a larger TV. HDX still struggles with banding in gradients for example, though not nearly as bad as Amazon or Netflix. Its 90% there for me, but still has a bit to go.

      I think Blu-rays will be with us for sometime as 4K Blu-Ray discs, streaming ultra hd isn't practical at this time and I prefer they use that extra bandwidth for higher bitrate 1080.

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        Re: Blu-ray vs digital HDX

        Originally posted by Robin View Post
        Its somewhat like 256bit mp3 vs Audio CD, the disk will always be better, but the difference isn't enough for most people to really care, the convenience of mp3s trumps the better quality of using Audio CDs for most people.

        That being said, my ears really cannot tell a difference between mp3 and audio cd, but I can tell the difference between HDX and Blu-ray most of the time. It is more noticeable if you have a larger TV. HDX still struggles with banding in gradients for example, though not nearly as bad as Amazon or Netflix. Its 90% there for me, but still has a bit to go.

        I think Blu-rays will be with us for sometime as 4K Blu-Ray discs, streaming ultra hd isn't practical at this time and I prefer they use that extra bandwidth for higher bitrate 1080.
        As you pointed out gradients are the big issue I see. Like you said about audio, I can't tell the difference because I'm no audiophile.

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          Re: Blu-ray vs digital HDX

          I think most people could tell the difference between HDX and Blu-Ray, if properly instructed as to the nuances.

          That said for most people, in most cases they will be hard pressed to tell any difference in picture or sound quality.

          In some cases HDX streaming may actually be better. The Blu-ray pressing might be much older transfer.

          The obvious differences, to be, have been that Blu-Ray always takes much larger to get to the movie. Players may have quick start, and ability to bypass (some) of the "commericals", trailers, etc, BEFORE you get to the menus and what not but Streaming is faster. Depending on your box way faster. I always like trailers, but being about to bypass all that stuff and get to the movie and not have to wait for the Blu-Ray to spool up was wonderful.

          Space, I love having thousands of movies without all the cases, or even binders full of disc. Some people like the library look. Thats fine.

          One BIG point in HDX streaming favor over Blu-Ray.
          In terms of pure picture and sound. Stream can get upgraded over time. If there are problems they can be fixed. On Blu-Ray you're stuck with whatever you paid for, outside of the return window.

          It's also easier to update a streaming box to a new standard (within technical limits of the hardware), where blu-ray is more "locked in".

          They both have their advantages, and disadvantages. I own and buy both. Technically for the majority of cases blu-ray may offer (slightly) better picture and sound, but streaming (HDX) wins out on an overall basis.

          Let's not even talk about the fact that Netflix has already started playing with 4K streaming as of last week and will have something next year, Sony has started limited 4K streaming, Odemax has started limited (mostly independent) 4K streaming for 4K streaming. All of these are available with hardware starting around $1K and under. When Netflix get's rolling I would expect their service to be running 4K streaming on boxes at $250 and under, perhaps $149.

          The point? Even those 4K streaming will take 50MB connection which most Americans currently don't have, thats changing rapidly. Speed required is going down. People's speed is going up. And Blu-Ray is going to have a hard-time coming up with a new mechanical / optical standard that is cost effective and can approved and implemented in a timely manner. Besides even Blu-Ray isn't in most U.S. households. About 90% have at least one DVD player, while only about 25% have at least one Blu-Ray player.

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            Re: Blu-ray vs digital HDX

            Thanks everyone for your input!

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