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    #16
    Re: HDX download time

    Let's not ask VUDU to lower the quality of the HDX by reducing the amount of data just to speed up the download. If anything let's lobby VUDU to make the file larger (especially add to the audio data and get it up to 360Kbps to 448Kbps range) and take even longer to download. HDX should be about maximizing quality at the total expense of convenience. If you want convenience just pick instant HD.

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      #17
      Re: HDX download time

      Originally posted by Julien View Post
      Let's not ask VUDU to lower the quality of the HDX by reducing the amount of data just to speed up the download. If anything let's lobby VUDU to make the file larger (especially add to the audio data and get it up to 360Kbps to 448Kbps range) and take even longer to download. HDX should be about maximizing quality at the total expense of convenience. If you want convenience just pick instant HD.
      Oh, we aren't asking for that...No one wants to lower HDX quality..

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        #18
        Re: HDX download time

        Originally posted by Julien View Post
        HDX should be about maximizing quality at the total expense of convenience. If you want convenience just pick instant HD.
        For those iPhone users who want convenience, get the Vudu app. Order on the go.

        http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/M...301218886&mt=8

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          #19
          Re: HDX download time

          Originally posted by Julien View Post
          Let's not ask VUDU to lower the quality of the HDX by reducing the amount of data just to speed up the download. If anything let's lobby VUDU to make the file larger (especially add to the audio data and get it up to 360Kbps to 448Kbps range) and take even longer to download. HDX should be about maximizing quality at the total expense of convenience. If you want convenience just pick instant HD.

          Julien, the 5.1 audio on HDX movies is typically at 640kbps.

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            #20
            Re: HDX download time

            Originally posted by Patrick View Post
            Julien, the 5.1 audio on HDX movies is typically at 640kbps.
            It is transmitted at 250Kbps (I believe) and then transcoded/up-sampled to 640Kbps. Up-sampling can't improve or replace the lost info.

            It takes so little bandwidth to transmit at 360Kbps (theater film print quality), or 384Kbps (low DVD), or 448Kbps (high DVD) or better yet 640Kbps (full DD) over 250Kbps that I wish VUDU would add it to the HDX encode. It would only add a few short minutes to the download time.

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              #21
              Re: HDX download time

              Originally posted by Julien View Post
              It is transmitted at 250Kbps (I believe) and then transcoded/up-sampled to 640Kbps. Up-sampling can't improve or replace the lost info.

              ....
              That is for the HD or SD titles. The HDX titles are at a higher bitrate for the audio.

              In the HDX press releases they stated that the 5.1 audio for the HDX titles would be encoded at a 40% higher bitrate than DVD. Which would be around 640kbs.

              Besides it wouldn't make any sense to offer the HDX titles, which has an average bitrate of 10mbs(with 20mbs peaks), without increasing the audio quality since the audio takes up so little of the total bandwidth.

              Of course I would love to have HDX titles with a 1mbs or 1.5mbs DD+ track. But it wouldn't serve much purpose unless they could bitstream the DD+ which would require a box with HDMI 1.3 or at least decode it internally for output as PCM. Although I would prefer bitstreaming personally.

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                #22
                Re: HDX download time

                Originally posted by aaronwt View Post
                Of course I would love to have HDX titles with a 1mbs or 1.5mbs DD+ track. But it wouldn't serve much purpose unless they could bitstream the DD+ which would require a box with HDMI 1.3 or at least decode it internally for output as PCM. Although I would prefer bitstreaming personally.
                And I of course would love to have VUDU release a second generation box with upgraded features like HDMI 1.3, GigE ports, wireless built-in, bigger HDD, etc etc..

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