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    Blue Ray vs. HD/HDX Comparison Thread?

    Hey, I was just looking for some info on Ed's thread regarding the number of Blue Ray titles vs. HD/HDX. I can't find it. Anyone know what happened to it?

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    Re: Blue Ray vs. HD/HDX Comparison Thread

    I found it digging through my e-mails. Here's Ed's original post again for those interested. Not sure where the thread went. I've seen a number disappear recently for some reason...

    Text below by Nded

    A couple days ago somebody pointed out the great detailed listing of BR titles at http://www.blu-raystats.com/Stats/Stats.php . I have to say it is much harder (if not impossible) to get a simple text listing of the 1,407 HD titles on Vudu. Anyway, with that 1,100 title listing in hand, I set out to compare the catalogs. The results were surprising:

    Quantity By Studio (easiest sort to find on the Vudu)

    Studio_______ BR_____Vudu
    Disney_______ 90_____ 35
    Fox_________111_____ 67
    Lionsgate_____ 55_____136
    MGM_________21_____607
    Paramount____ 72_____144
    Sony________ 187_____ 42
    Universal______ 40_____ 68
    Warner_______215_____206
    Other________309_____102

    The support of MGM for Vudu obviously has a major impact on the superior size of the Vudu catalog.

    Duplicates

    In the past I had estimated that there were about 900 duplicates across the 2 platforms - I was terribly mistaken. I had estimated this based upon the last years movie releases, where pretty much everything new came out on both platforms. After a detailed catalog review I have determined that there are only 249 duplicate HD titles both on BR and on Vudu. The thing that really jumped out at me were the huge number of "not a movie" titles on BR (TV shows, Music Concerts, Documentary/Tourism, other (i.e. Fireplace?), vs the Vudu catalog being pretty much all movies. I did not include SD versions on Vudu of the same movie as duplicates on BR. I think the duplicate listing would double to about 600 if the SD versions on Vudu were included, but that's not really an apples to apples comparison, we're only talking HD content.

    Catalog Inflation - Content is King

    The thing I found in the BR listing that I think inflates that 1,100 listing is the number of duplicates that overlap (i.e. Terminator 3 and Terminator 3 1080i, "A Christmas Story" gets 3 hits, or when they list a Collection of other movies on the list like Resident Evil Trilogy as an additional title). The closest thing you will find to that in the Vudu catalog is when they have something like Close Encounters of the Third Kind with 2 releases (Theatrical vs. Directors Cut). There are less than 20 such duplicates in the Vudu catalog. FYI, when there are both HD and HDX versions of the same title, that title only counts as 1 in the Vudu catalog. If you are going to count T3 and T3-1800i is as 2 titles, then the Vudu HD/HDX catalog is much larger (likely over 2,000), but I don't think that is a fair representation of the the true catalog content.

    Common Curses

    No matter what platform you are using, there are some things in HD that on both just shouldn't be:

    Purple rain
    Step Into Liquid

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      Re: Blue Ray vs. HD/HDX Comparison Thread

      Originally posted by NA9D View Post
      I found it digging through my e-mails. Here's Ed's original post again for those interested. Not sure where the thread went. I've seen a number disappear recently for some reason...

      Text below by Nded

      A couple days ago somebody pointed out the great detailed listing of BR titles at http://www.blu-raystats.com/Stats/Stats.php . I have to say it is much harder (if not impossible) to get a simple text listing of the 1,407 HD titles on Vudu. Anyway, with that 1,100 title listing in hand, I set out to compare the catalogs. The results were surprising:

      Quantity By Studio (easiest sort to find on the Vudu)

      Studio_______ BR_____Vudu
      Disney_______ 90_____ 35
      Fox_________111_____ 67
      Lionsgate_____ 55_____136
      MGM_________21_____607
      Paramount____ 72_____144
      Sony________ 187_____ 42
      Universal______ 40_____ 68
      Warner_______215_____206
      Other________309_____102

      The support of MGM for Vudu obviously has a major impact on the superior size of the Vudu catalog.

      Duplicates

      In the past I had estimated that there were about 900 duplicates across the 2 platforms - I was terribly mistaken. I had estimated this based upon the last years movie releases, where pretty much everything new came out on both platforms. After a detailed catalog review I have determined that there are only 249 duplicate HD titles both on BR and on Vudu. The thing that really jumped out at me were the huge number of "not a movie" titles on BR (TV shows, Music Concerts, Documentary/Tourism, other (i.e. Fireplace?), vs the Vudu catalog being pretty much all movies. I did not include SD versions on Vudu of the same movie as duplicates on BR. I think the duplicate listing would double to about 600 if the SD versions on Vudu were included, but that's not really an apples to apples comparison, we're only talking HD content.

      Catalog Inflation - Content is King

      The thing I found in the BR listing that I think inflates that 1,100 listing is the number of duplicates that overlap (i.e. Terminator 3 and Terminator 3 1080i, "A Christmas Story" gets 3 hits, or when they list a Collection of other movies on the list like Resident Evil Trilogy as an additional title). The closest thing you will find to that in the Vudu catalog is when they have something like Close Encounters of the Third Kind with 2 releases (Theatrical vs. Directors Cut). There are less than 20 such duplicates in the Vudu catalog. FYI, when there are both HD and HDX versions of the same title, that title only counts as 1 in the Vudu catalog. If you are going to count T3 and T3-1800i is as 2 titles, then the Vudu HD/HDX catalog is much larger (likely over 2,000), but I don't think that is a fair representation of the the true catalog content.

      Common Curses

      No matter what platform you are using, there are some things in HD that on both just shouldn't be:

      Purple rain
      Step Into Liquid
      Dude, why are you dissing Purple Rain? The film may ooze cheese, but vamping is a hallmark of Prince, and there are few artists that have enjoyed the longevity of Prince.

      The other one that comes to mind is U2, and what do you know, their lead man is also big into vamping and cheese. I love them both. Purple Rain is a classic, the album, the film, the time. It should be in any serious 80's film catalog. What we need is a good remastering of that film, because most cuts I've seen are crappy. Maybe the cinematography just wasn't that good.

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        Re: Blue Ray vs. HD/HDX Comparison Thread

        Originally posted by jokeysmurf View Post
        Dude, why are you dissing Purple Rain? The film may ooze cheese, but vamping is a hallmark of Prince, and there are few artists that have enjoyed the longevity of Prince.
        Apparently this guy has several fully produced music videos looked in his safe that he payed to have made and then never released (Prince that is, not jokeysmurf!). From what I've heard he's a little out there...

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          Re: Blue Ray vs. HD/HDX Comparison Thread

          Originally posted by jokeysmurf View Post
          Purple Rain is a classic, the album, the film, the time.
          What about the music??

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            Re: Blue Ray vs. HD/HDX Comparison Thread

            Originally posted by jokeysmurf View Post
            Dude, why are you dissing Purple Rain? The film may ooze cheese, but vamping is a hallmark of Prince, and there are few artists that have enjoyed the longevity of Prince.
            First, please don't quote an entire long post in a reply!

            Second - I think you are correct about Purple Rain being a classic 80s film. That said, you couldn't pay me enough to watch it or listen to music from Prince, or is it "The Artist Formerly Known as Prince"? Oh wait, it's Prince again. Any guy who's got such an identity crisis about his name and his gender (come on, he's totally effeminate) is not for me! :-) Well, wait - you could pay me enough but you couldn't afford my price!

            The other one that comes to mind is U2, and what do you know, their lead man is also big into vamping and cheese. I love them both. Purple Rain is a classic, the album, the film, the time. It should be in any serious 80's film catalog. What we need is a good remastering of that film, because most cuts I've seen are crappy. Maybe the cinematography just wasn't that good.
            Yeah, well I've been a U2 fan longer than most U2 fans have been alive and I much prefer the Bono of the early and mid-80s....

            :-)

            Still love their music though..Especially the Classic albums like October.

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              #7
              Re: Blue Ray vs. HD/HDX Comparison Thread?

              Hmm. I like Prince and U2, both since the early 80's. Although I've only seen Prince in concert live.

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                #8
                Re: Blue Ray vs. HD/HDX Comparison Thread?

                Originally posted by aaronwt View Post
                Hmm. I like Prince and U2, both since the early 80's. Although I've only seen Prince in concert live.
                I got to see U2 live back in 1987 or 1988 I think it was. I forget which tour - Joshua Tree perhaps? It was awesome...

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                  #9
                  Re: Blue Ray vs. HD/HDX Comparison Thread?

                  I think any Bluray fanboy is gonna always think that BD is better. honestly to my eyes Vudu's HDX is outstanding and on par with BD and HD DVD. of course fanboys seen complain about the fact that HDX lacks in the surround sound dept. Im not huge on that factor, PQ is far more important to me. hats off HDX is amazing!!!
                  Im using a Samsung LNTa40750 with 120hz on low

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                    #10
                    Re: Blue Ray vs. HD/HDX Comparison Thread

                    Originally posted by HeadHodge View Post
                    What about the music??
                    That goes without saying, or at least it should

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                      #11
                      Re: Blue Ray vs. HD/HDX Comparison Thread?

                      Originally posted by NA9D View Post
                      I got to see U2 live back in 1987 or 1988 I think it was. I forget which tour - Joshua Tree perhaps? It was awesome...
                      Cool, I saw them on ZooTV tour (leg 1), Popmart (leg 1), Elevation (US leg 1 and US leg 2 right after 9/11), and Vertigo.

                      Elevation was an amazing tour.

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                        Re: Blue Ray vs. HD/HDX Comparison Thread

                        Originally posted by Citizen Erased View Post
                        Apparently this guy has several fully produced music videos looked in his safe that he payed to have made and then never released (Prince that is, not jokeysmurf!). From what I've heard he's a little out there...
                        LOL, thanks for the clarification.

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