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    Is 1080p really better than 720p?

    720p looked awesome on my 55in Vizio using my PS4. i can understand VUDU taking away 720p as a purchase option, but it was NOT cool that they took away 720p as a setting. But that's what companies do- tell people what they want. My internet provider now has a 1TB limit a month - that's not going to go very far with HDX which hogs up twice the amount of data just so someone can say "hey, it looks better" (while they're standing only 2 feet away. HDX also chokes from time to time while HD never did, and i have high-speed internet. I don't want to use another source like Cinemanow, but I don't have a choice.

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    Re: Is 1080p really better than 720p?

    Well, firstly 1080p is "Technically" better, but I do understand your point of view. To the person that doesn't see a huge difference between 720-1080, the jump in quality could be insignificant. Also, since the PS4 is just an amazing system, the jump isn't even really noticeable. It is noticeable on Smart TVs/blurays/Rokus which, I mean...pandering to 3 other system types kinda trumps pandering to game systems. If you have a Terry-byte of memory a month, I would not worry about VUDU eating up all the data. A movie streaming is like...1gb?? so you would need to watch 1000 different movies. Watching the same movie 1000 times wouldn't mess you up/equal the same result, because with each stream temporary memory is left behind making the movie easier to play/not taking up more space to play. (Think of it as watching a youtube video twice. Its easier, with no buffers the second time). Also, each definition was a separate license which was costing VUDU money to keep. So why would they continue to pay for a HD copy, and a HDX copy, when both of them were costing the consumer the same amount of money, it kinda didn't make sense from a company standpoint. I know SD doesn't really look all that different from HD, and if you're on the PS4, you could just stream your content in SD (which is around 300Mb) save your internet speed, and still enjoy the VUDU service.

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      #3
      Re: Is 1080p really better than 720p?

      Originally posted by wmyatt View Post
      720p looked awesome on my 55in Vizio using my PS4. i can understand VUDU taking away 720p as a purchase option, but it was NOT cool that they took away 720p as a setting. But that's what companies do- tell people what they want. My internet provider now has a 1TB limit a month - that's not going to go very far with HDX which hogs up twice the amount of data just so someone can say "hey, it looks better" (while they're standing only 2 feet away. HDX also chokes from time to time while HD never did, and i have high-speed internet. I don't want to use another source like Cinemanow, but I don't have a choice.
      You aren't going to go over 1 TB of data watching HDX movies. I'm streaming UHD on Vudu and Netflix and haven't gone near the 1 TB limit. There is a difference from 720p to 1080p. If you don't notice the difference, it's a TV or calibration issue. Vizio is not a high end TV. Not all TVs are created equal. I'm glad they got rid of the HD setting. It ended up causing confusion and the price was the same. If it's chocking, the issue lies with your hardware or the ISP. I have no problems streaming HDX.

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        Re: Is 1080p really better than 720p?

        Originally posted by dunnvudu View Post
        You aren't going to go over 1 TB of data watching HDX movies. I'm streaming UHD on Vudu and Netflix and haven't gone near the 1 TB limit. There is a difference from 720p to 1080p. If you don't notice the difference, it's a TV or calibration issue. Vizio is not a high end TV. Not all TVs are created equal. I'm glad they got rid of the HD setting. It ended up causing confusion and the price was the same. If it's chocking, the issue lies with your hardware or the ISP. I have no problems streaming HDX.
        I agree and disagree here.

        First off, I have a Vizio, and I agree, not the best when it comes to telling the difference between 720 and 1080. I also have an LCD, which could be why. I plan on getting a new TV in the new year though.

        As for the HD and HDX options. I agree, it could confuse people when making purchases, but when I started with Vudu, I didn't know the difference between the two, but always when with HDX, since they were the same price. However, I wish they had left the option to still stream the videos in HD, as when I visit my parents, they live in the country, and the only ISP they have offers 3mb for $60 or 10mb for $100, and they won't go for the 10mb and I don't blame them, we can only watch titles in SD when there as the connection isn't strong enough to watch HDX. I'm trying to get them to move into town so they can get 100mb for $50, but they are slow. LOL

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          Re: Is 1080p really better than 720p?

          Originally posted by Wasteland View Post
          However, I wish they had left the option to still stream the videos in HD, as when I visit my parents, they live in the country, and the only ISP they have offers 3mb for $60 or 10mb for $100, and they won't go for the 10mb and I don't blame them, we can only watch titles in SD when there as the connection isn't strong enough to watch HDX. I'm trying to get them to move into town so they can get 100mb for $50, but they are slow. LOL
          I have explained this already in a couple of other threads on this topic, but here goes one more time...

          Think of HDX as a maximum quality, not a minimum requirement. All HDX streaming (in fact all modern streaming services work this way) is "adaptive", meaning it will adapt to your available bandwidth. It uses multiple bitrates and resolutions between 1Mbps 480p (the same minimum as VUDU SD) and 9Mbps 1080p and seamlessly switches as necessary to avoid buffering. There are some older devices that don't support switching to the lower rates, but most devices sold in the last 3 years (and many older than that, including all Rokus and game consoles) support this.

          In addition (as I have also mentioned in other threads), we are working to add additional features to "limit" bandwidth of the HDX streaming for those concerned about their Internet usage. Though also as was said, 1TB is a HUGE amount for streaming - that would be over 8 hours every day at the highest HDX quality.

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            Re: Is 1080p really better than 720p?

            Originally posted by Jake View Post
            I have explained this already in a couple of other threads on this topic, but here goes one more time...

            Think of HDX as a maximum quality, not a minimum requirement. All HDX streaming (in fact all modern streaming services work this way) is "adaptive", meaning it will adapt to your available bandwidth. It uses multiple bitrates and resolutions between 1Mbps 480p (the same minimum as VUDU SD) and 9Mbps 1080p and seamlessly switches as necessary to avoid buffering. There are some older devices that don't support switching to the lower rates, but most devices sold in the last 3 years (and many older than that, including all Rokus and game consoles) support this.

            In addition (as I have also mentioned in other threads), we are working to add additional features to "limit" bandwidth of the HDX streaming for those concerned about their Internet usage. Though also as was said, 1TB is a HUGE amount for streaming - that would be over 8 hours every day at the highest HDX quality.
            Any thought for a feature to allow for >9 Mbps bit rate to allow for higher quality on connections that can allow the data?

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              Re: Is 1080p really better than 720p?

              Originally posted by Jake View Post
              I have explained this already in a couple of other threads on this topic, but here goes one more time...

              Think of HDX as a maximum quality, not a minimum requirement. All HDX streaming (in fact all modern streaming services work this way) is "adaptive", meaning it will adapt to your available bandwidth. It uses multiple bitrates and resolutions between 1Mbps 480p (the same minimum as VUDU SD) and 9Mbps 1080p and seamlessly switches as necessary to avoid buffering. There are some older devices that don't support switching to the lower rates, but most devices sold in the last 3 years (and many older than that, including all Rokus and game consoles) support this.

              In addition (as I have also mentioned in other threads), we are working to add additional features to "limit" bandwidth of the HDX streaming for those concerned about their Internet usage. Though also as was said, 1TB is a HUGE amount for streaming - that would be over 8 hours every day at the highest HDX quality.
              If it adapted to the available bandwidth, why does it constantly buffer on HDX instead of adapting? Doesn't seem like it adapts that well. Something Vudu should look into.

              As for the 1TB being an issue. You said it would be over 8 hours a day streaming in the highest quality. Let's see. I wonder how many Vudu customers are disabled, stay at home and watch movies on Vudu, stream their cable, Netflix, Hulu, all as their main source of "cable". Yeah, 8 hours a day would be up in a 8 days.

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                Re: Is 1080p really better than 720p?

                Originally posted by Wasteland View Post
                As for the 1TB being an issue. You said it would be over 8 hours a day streaming in the highest quality. Let's see. I wonder how many Vudu customers are disabled, stay at home and watch movies on Vudu, stream their cable, Netflix, Hulu, all as their main source of "cable". Yeah, 8 hours a day would be up in a 8 days.
                I can only add my experience and echo what dunnvudu said - I stream a ton of UHD and have never gone over 1TB. My parents are retired and have a TV running HD pretty much 18 hours a day and they are fine, too...

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                  Re: Is 1080p really better than 720p?

                  yes it is better...

                  and guess what?

                  2160p is better than 1080p...

                  Lesson of the day folks!

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                    Re: Is 1080p really better than 720p?

                    Originally posted by Wasteland View Post
                    If it adapted to the available bandwidth, why does it constantly buffer on HDX instead of adapting? Doesn't seem like it adapts that well. Something Vudu should look into.

                    As for the 1TB being an issue. You said it would be over 8 hours a day streaming in the highest quality. Let's see. I wonder how many Vudu customers are disabled, stay at home and watch movies on Vudu, stream their cable, Netflix, Hulu, all as their main source of "cable". Yeah, 8 hours a day would be up in a 8 days.
                    Your connection is probably fluctuating up and down the SD streaming requirement too quickly.

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                      Re: Is 1080p really better than 720p?

                      Originally posted by Kappa123 View Post
                      Your connection is probably fluctuating up and down the SD streaming requirement too quickly.
                      Not my connections, but why wouldn't Vudu's stream adapt like they said? If it was on HDX, and it wasn't strong enough, and Vudu was adapting to the connection, it would drop to at least HD, or even SD, not constantly buffer, and force the user to set an even worse quality.

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