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    Sony +Clean Versions rights GONE and is Ultraviolet rights going next?

    Noticed today that VUDU is in the process of removing all the Clean Versions of Sony's Clean Movies offerings under the VUDU Extras tabs. This is after Sony's Cleanermovies webpage has been down for several days now and FANDANGONOW has stopped selling them for a few days. I feel like I was robbed because I just bought a few of those movies because they offered clean versions through the VUDU EXTRAS feature.

    I am also worried that if they can take those versions away without any compensation, could they do the same with parts or all of our Ultraviolet collections? They are already dropping the name Ultraviolet from some newer DVDs and Bluray packaging from major studios like Warner and FOX. Is there anything we can do to prevent this from happening and get back the clean versions from Sony that have already been removed?
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    Re: Sony +Clean Versions rights GONE and is Ultraviolet rights going next?

    The Sony clean versions are going away because Sony backtracked on the entire idea. You may see them come back but it depends on if they smooth things over. They did a lot of them without directors' permissions and now will only do so with permission.

    "The DGA has notified Sony that it expects the immediate removal of all 'clean' versions of affected films from availability until Sony secures permission from each and every director, and provides them with an opportunity to edit a version for release in new media," the statement read. "As we have throughout our history, we are committed to fighting the unauthorized editing of films."

    I also wouldn't worry about UV going away... Warner Brothers owns Fandango / Flixster which is the largest UV redeem site. It's also become the standard that the industry was pushing.

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      Re: Sony +Clean Versions rights GONE and is Ultraviolet rights going next?

      I hope you are not upset because you bought a title and the CLEAN version was removed... LOL... watch a movie for how it was made to be watched. If it was too bad for kids, the don't need to see the clean version either.

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        Re: Sony +Clean Versions rights GONE and is Ultraviolet rights going next?

        I think the Clean Movies Vudu Extras should work like UV rights do. If you owned the movie when it was being sold with UV rights you still retain the UV rights even if they discontinue selling the UV rights later on such as the Relativity movies or Captain America and Iron Man movies. Therefore we should continue to have VUDU Extras features for the movies we already purchased before they were removed. That is all I am asking VUDU to do. Just wish we could get someone from VUDU to look into this and reply here as to what they are going to do to those affected.

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          Re: Sony +Clean Versions rights GONE and is Ultraviolet rights going next?

          The best you can probably hope for is them removing the movie from your library and refunding you. Have you opened a support ticket about it?

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            Re: Sony +Clean Versions rights GONE and is Ultraviolet rights going next?

            No bonus features have UV rights. It was a Sony decision that they backtracked on due to directors threatening to boycott and the DGA breathing down their necks. If you bought a movie solely for it to be the clean version then you can contact Vudu for a refund and they'll remove it from your library, as Navigator suggested, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that version coming back as an extra any time soon.

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              Re: Sony +Clean Versions rights GONE and is Ultraviolet rights going next?

              For those who purchased a title that offered the clean version during the time clean versions were available, we have re-deposited the clean version of that title back into your account. It will show up as it's own title under My Movies, not under Vudu Extras.

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                Re: Sony +Clean Versions rights GONE and is Ultraviolet rights going next?

                Originally posted by FelipeF View Post
                For those who purchased a title that offered the clean version during the time clean versions were available, we have re-deposited the clean version of that title back into your account. It will show up as it's own title under My Movies, not under Vudu Extras.
                Thanks for the update Felipe.

                However, tell your bosses at VUDU that this is probably NOT going to be an acceptable solution to this problem because Sony, while they possibly did release these versions without getting permission first from directors or their reps, didn't do anything that totally broke the Director's Guild rules. Director Apatow, one of the main critics of the cleanermovies, should be held somewhat responsible for his actions. Because instead of Apatow talking directly to Sony like the DGA has recommended, Apatow sent an angry tweet about his movies being edited which is not in accordance with the DGA's rules. Furthermore, the DGA only seemed to get involved when Apatow and a few others complained. Even the DGA stated they had to look at the legaity of it which is basically trying to find a case where it would be illegal instead of flat out being able to say that it is illegal which is a huge difference. Basically the DGA was looking for loopholes. So as far as I can tell these clean movies should be back under the VUDU Extras until this is legally resolved.

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                  Re: Sony +Clean Versions rights GONE and is Ultraviolet rights going next?

                  I wish Sony would stop wasting money, time and effort to do these "Clean" versions and instead provide their 4k movies to Vudu or at least provide the Sony Ultra app to more devices. Instead the titles are still only available in 4k on their Ultra app on certain specific Sony android TVs.

                  53 UHD
                  789 HDX
                  2 SD

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                    Re: Sony +Clean Versions rights GONE and is Ultraviolet rights going next?

                    Originally posted by RRTOP14 View Post
                    Thanks for the update Felipe.

                    However, tell your bosses at VUDU that this is probably NOT going to be an acceptable solution to this problem because Sony, while they possibly did release these versions without getting permission first from directors or their reps, didn't do anything that totally broke the Director's Guild rules. Director Apatow, one of the main critics of the cleanermovies, should be held somewhat responsible for his actions. Because instead of Apatow talking directly to Sony like the DGA has recommended, Apatow sent an angry tweet about his movies being edited which is not in accordance with the DGA's rules. Furthermore, the DGA only seemed to get involved when Apatow and a few others complained. Even the DGA stated they had to look at the legaity of it which is basically trying to find a case where it would be illegal instead of flat out being able to say that it is illegal which is a huge difference. Basically the DGA was looking for loopholes. So as far as I can tell these clean movies should be back under the VUDU Extras until this is legally resolved.
                    So Vudu gave those who purchased these movies for the clean versions back their clean versions and people still complain. I would only imagine that Vudu was directed by Sony to take down these clean version and offer some kind of resolution to those who still wanted them. This whole clean versions issue has been completely blown out of proportion.

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                      Re: Sony +Clean Versions rights GONE and is Ultraviolet rights going next?

                      Originally posted by Kappa123 View Post
                      So Vudu gave those who purchased these movies for the clean versions back their clean versions and people still complain. I would only imagine that Vudu was directed by Sony to take down these clean version and offer some kind of resolution to those who still wanted them. This whole clean versions issue has been completely blown out of proportion.
                      The problem is that the solution that VUDU gave us according to Felipe leaves someone like me without any clean versions at all even though I added them to my VUDU accounts during the short period that the clean versions were offered on VUDU.

                      So how did I wind up with no clean versions now? Let me explain the situation below.

                      It appears that the only people who are getting the clean versions now are the ones who bought the +Clean Versions through VUDU. I bought 3 of the movies offered as clean versions at a local discount store on Blu-ray. I had to do 2 of them through disc to digital because no UV code was included. The other one was added through a UV code. So now I have no clean movies at all because VUDU apparently didn't keep track of those who acquired these movies during that period through UV codes or Disc to digital.

                      And because Felipe said that the clean versions being offered now only applies to movies bought during that time, none of the other clean movies that I already owned before the Sony Clean versions started count either. It is sort of unfair not to get clean versions of movies I had already owned since you couldn't repurchase those movies just to get the clean versions.

                      So it is not as simple of a fix as you might think. VUDU should have never removed the VUDU Extras in the first place and left them up until ordered by law to take them down since now it is nearly impossible to tell who owned the movies affected during the time they were available.

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                        Re: Sony +Clean Versions rights GONE and is Ultraviolet rights going next?

                        Originally posted by RRTOP14 View Post
                        The problem is that the solution that VUDU gave us according to Felipe leaves someone like me without any clean versions at all even though I added them to my VUDU accounts during the short period that the clean versions were offered on VUDU.

                        So how did I wind up with no clean versions now? Let me explain the situation below.

                        It appears that the only people who are getting the clean versions now are the ones who bought the +Clean Versions through VUDU. I bought 3 of the movies offered as clean versions at a local discount store on Blu-ray. I had to do 2 of them through disc to digital because no UV code was included. The other one was added through a UV code. So now I have no clean movies at all because VUDU apparently didn't keep track of those who acquired these movies during that period through UV codes or Disc to digital.

                        And because Felipe said that the clean versions being offered now only applies to movies bought during that time, none of the other clean movies that I already owned before the Sony Clean versions started count either. It is sort of unfair not to get clean versions of movies I had already owned since you couldn't repurchase those movies just to get the clean versions.

                        So it is not as simple of a fix as you might think. VUDU should have never removed the VUDU Extras in the first place and left them up until ordered by law to take them down since now it is nearly impossible to tell who owned the movies affected during the time they were available.
                        PM me the 2 titles you purchased through D2D and the other one that you redeemed a code with and I'll see if I can help in this situation.

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