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    I knew Ultraviolet and VUDU were to good to be true...

    Back in 2011/12 ish I found Ultraviolet and VUDU. Probably like many of you I was excited to finally have a digital option for my movies and not half to worry about moving from one format to another over the years VCR, DVD, Blu ray and so on... and basically starting all over again.

    Few years back I saw VUDU offering 4k movies on my laptop but when I was buying from my TV (I did not havea 4k TV yet) the 4k movies were not available. I called and asked why I couldn't buy them from my TV and was told 4k was only available to LG (if I remember correctly) but more TV's were going to be added soon. SO I really put no thought into it.

    About a year ago or so I purchased a Samsung 4k tv and guess what, that 4k TV wasn't on "the list" of supported TV's. Huh, what??? It's a 4k TV but not on a list to work with VUDU and it's 4k movie offers...

    So here we are today. I called VUDU yesterday and made sure I had "THE LIST" of TV's supported for 4k movies on VUDU!

    All excited I finally got a TV that I can finally watch 4k movies on! WOOT! BUT of course it's not that easy!!!

    Silly me, I figured all the movies I have purchased or upgraded to HDX would just need a small fee like going from SD to HD or HDX... WRONG! Come to find out this whole digital locker and never having to buy movies again wasn't as perfect as I thought. N ope, I now have thousands of dollars in HDX that can't be upgraded to 4k. I have to BUY the 4K movie at original price...


    I'm done buying movies if this is really what I am facing???

    I'm sure this has been talked about and I'll go find those posts but right now, I'd like to stick my middle finger up but what good would that do
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    Re: I knew Ultraviolet and VUDU were to good to be true...

    You chose to very specifically call out UltraViolet and Vudu for all that, but can you name for us an alternative digital movie service/locker that is in any way different in that regard?

    How about naming another consumer product that doesn't work exactly the same way?

    When you upgraded a movie from VHS to DVD, was there only an upgrade fee involved? How about from DVD to blu-ray? How about blu-ray to UHD blu-ray?

    When you go on Amazon, can you find for us one product that can be had at an "upgrade fee" price?

    Further, when you first joined Vudu back in 2011/12ish, why didn't the lack of option to upgrade from SD to HDX or the lack of ability to sell your digital goods on the secondary market give you the same pause before proceeding to spend "thousands of dollars?"

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      Re: I knew Ultraviolet and VUDU were to good to be true...

      I understand where you are coming from. And the answer to some of those questions is yes. At one time you could take your DVDs to Best Buy and get 5.00 off any blu-ray over 10.00. Disney had a similar program that offered 8.00 off a blu-ray if you sent in a DVD.

      Also, one of the advertised benefits of UltraViolet was that you wouldn't have to keep re-buying your movies when a new format came out, or extra features were added. Also, the founder of VUDU predicted that one day we would be able to upgrade our SD digital movies to UHD digital movies.

      Furthermore, we can upgrade our DVD's to Digital HD, so why wouldn't we be able to upgade our digital movies to HD and UHD?

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        Re: I knew Ultraviolet and VUDU were to good to be true...

        Originally posted by echopulse View Post
        I understand where you are coming from. And the answer to some of those questions is yes. At one time you could take your DVDs to Best Buy and get 5.00 off any blu-ray over 10.00. Disney had a similar program that offered 8.00 off a blu-ray if you sent in a DVD.

        Also, one of the advertised benefits of UltraViolet was that you wouldn't have to keep re-buying your movies when a new format came out, or extra features were added. Also, the founder of VUDU predicted that one day we would be able to upgrade our SD digital movies to UHD digital movies.

        Furthermore, we can upgrade our DVD's to Digital HD, so why wouldn't we be able to upgade our digital movies to HD and UHD?

        BOOM! (In other words, nicely explained)

        And I call out Vudu and ultraviolet because that's the service I use however I also understand its more likely the studios behind this...

        And yes, I can trade in my phone, car and other things to reduce the price of the next item I buy. Not everything can be done like this but then again there is EBAY, Craigslist and other sites to sell my stuff on... Fact is, we don't really own these movies, yes they are ours but if I want to sell them, I cant and if I want to upgrade at a reduced cost I cant...

        With other services going under, the industry moving towards 4k and theaters in a slump; one would think it would be in the best interest to continue the upgrade fee rather than charging full price.

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          Re: I knew Ultraviolet and VUDU were to good to be true...

          Originally posted by Tranceology View Post
          And yes, I can trade in my phone, car and other things to reduce the price of the next item I buy. Not everything can be done like this but then again there is EBAY, Craigslist and other sites to sell my stuff on... Fact is, we don't really own these movies, yes they are ours but if I want to sell them, I cant and if I want to upgrade at a reduced cost I cant...
          I would absolutely love the ability to upgrade my titles for a fee less than buying the movie outright again, make no mistake. But my original question to you still stands:

          "Further, when you first joined Vudu back in 2011/12ish, why didn't the lack of option to upgrade from SD to HDX or the lack of ability to sell your digital goods on the secondary market like it was a physical good give you the same pause before proceeding to spend 'thousands of dollars?'"

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            Re: I knew Ultraviolet and VUDU were to good to be true...

            Originally posted by Cranston37 View Post
            I would absolutely love the ability to upgrade my titles for a fee less than buying the movie outright again, make no mistake. But my original question to you still stands:

            "Further, when you first joined Vudu back in 2011/12ish, why didn't the lack of option to upgrade from SD to HDX or the lack of ability to sell your digital goods on the secondary market like it was a physical good give you the same pause before proceeding to spend 'thousands of dollars?'"
            I don't think SD to HDX was an issue for me. If I was doing Disk to Digital and had a DVD (Not Bluray), I just paid the $5.00 extra for HDX. Eventually I was hopeful all titles would come to VUDU, if I couldn't get my Disk to Digital I just held onto the disk until it became available (This in some cases took years and a few titles are still not available), however sales have been offered that it just was worth buying the title for $4.99 to $9.99 unlike 4K where the few I have viewed for sale are around $29.99

            I never paused about digital because I figured my library would always be there and it appeared (as pointed out above) like we would be able to upgrade formats as needed vs buying new formats again at cost. I don't mind buying 4k if I don't own the title... I'm not asking for free, I'm just not willing to buy new formats at full price for the same titles I currently have.

            The only time I paused was if this service would go bust like others are now doing. I have some faith Walmart is a solid foundation and why I went with VUDU over the others

            I do have faith things will change one day, sort of like 3D did. Those days you had to buy 3D seperatly... now I see the HDX and 3D are combined (I'll admit I'm not up to date on 3D here as I don't watch it anymore nor do I know if you have the title in HDX that it's even possiable to upgrade to 3D. This mess was the reason I gave up on 3D purchases)

            So back to my original point, until things change I am not willing to spend more money chasing 4K. These days owning a movie is luxury but not really necessary. Making things difficult in an ever changing world of digital media seems to hurt the studios/UV/VUDU and the likes more than the customer. It's easy enough to watch these movies through other streaming services like Netflix etc... (And we do it legally here). It may still be a bit limited with the switch to 4k but in another 5 to 10 years...

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              Re: I knew Ultraviolet and VUDU were to good to be true...

              Originally posted by Tranceology View Post
              I don't think SD to HDX was an issue for me. If I was doing Disk to Digital and had a DVD (Not Bluray), I just paid the $5.00 extra for HDX. Eventually I was hopeful all titles would come to VUDU, if I couldn't get my Disk to Digital I just held onto the disk until it became available (This in some cases took years and a few titles are still not available), however sales have been offered that it just was worth buying the title for $4.99 to $9.99 unlike 4K where the few I have viewed for sale are around $29.99

              I never paused about digital because I figured my library would always be there and it appeared (as pointed out above) like we would be able to upgrade formats as needed vs buying new formats again at cost. I don't mind buying 4k if I don't own the title... I'm not asking for free, I'm just not willing to buy new formats at full price for the same titles I currently have.

              The only time I paused was if this service would go bust like others are now doing. I have some faith Walmart is a solid foundation and why I went with VUDU over the others

              I do have faith things will change one day, sort of like 3D did. Those days you had to buy 3D seperatly... now I see the HDX and 3D are combined (I'll admit I'm not up to date on 3D here as I don't watch it anymore nor do I know if you have the title in HDX that it's even possiable to upgrade to 3D. This mess was the reason I gave up on 3D purchases)

              So back to my original point, until things change I am not willing to spend more money chasing 4K. These days owning a movie is luxury but not really necessary. Making things difficult in an ever changing world of digital media seems to hurt the studios/UV/VUDU and the likes more than the customer. It's easy enough to watch these movies through other streaming services like Netflix etc... (And we do it legally here). It may still be a bit limited with the switch to 4k but in another 5 to 10 years...
              I'm in no hurry to upgrade to 4K at the moment. There isn't enough 4K content being offered on Vudu or any other streaming service to make it worthwhile. It's mostly first run movies (and only a tiny sliver of them) that are being released in a 4K format. Of course in a couple years we will be seeing more 4K rereleases like Terminator 2, Close Encounters, and Ghostbusters and by then I hope to see the studios get on board with something like an upgrade option, but until then I'm happy with HDX. In fact, I would rather see more extras and bonus features added to the films I already own than an upgrade feature.

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                Re: I knew Ultraviolet and VUDU were to good to be true...

                Originally posted by IPhoneUser View Post
                I'm in no hurry to upgrade to 4K at the moment. There isn't enough 4K content being offered on Vudu or any other streaming service to make it worthwhile. It's mostly first run movies (and only a tiny sliver of them) that are being released in a 4K format. Of course in a couple years we will be seeing more 4K rereleases like Terminator 2, Close Encounters, and Ghostbusters and by then I hope to see the studios get on board with something like an upgrade option, but until then I'm happy with HDX. In fact, I would rather see more extras and bonus features added to the films I already own than an upgrade feature.
                Ghostbusters has already been released in UHD. Over a year ago. And T2 and Close Encounters are being released this Autumn in UHD.

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                  #9
                  Re: I knew Ultraviolet and VUDU were to good to be true...

                  You can always buy movies on physical disc that come with UV for about the same price in a lot of cases as buying the digital version and when you feel so inclined yoy still have the physical disc to sell on eBay, Cragslist or whatever.

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