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Is VUDU stopping MA redemptions from porting to UV? Are you seeing gaps?

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    #31
    Re: Is VUDU stopping MA redemptions from porting to UV? Are you seeing gaps?

    Originally posted by SinGA View Post
    Wow, what a mess this MA stuff has become. Not sure what good it is.....

    the lesson is.... don't redeem your codes anywhere else but Vudu so that it goes into UV and therefore into your shared library.
    Yes, I'm not liking MA either and has made what was already complicated even more so. I just learned that if you disconnect retailers from MA, the movies already synced will remain there for two years. Just future movies won't sync. This is not the case with UV, if you disconnect UV, the movies are immediately removed. I was trying to disconnect MA on iTunes to get a 4k movie that was on sale but it kept saying the movie is already in my library because the HD version had ported over to iTunes. Very bad practice IMO.

    73 UHD
    855 HDX
    2 SD

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      #32
      Re: Is VUDU stopping MA redemptions from porting to UV? Are you seeing gaps?

      Originally posted by lujan View Post
      Yes, I'm not liking MA either and has made what was already complicated even more so. I just learned that if you disconnect retailers from MA, the movies already synced will remain there for two years. Just future movies won't sync. This is not the case with UV, if you disconnect UV, the movies are immediately removed. I was trying to disconnect MA on iTunes to get a 4k movie that was on sale but it kept saying the movie is already in my library because the HD version had ported over to iTunes. Very bad practice IMO.

      73 UHD
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      On this topic, it is VUDU I'm not liking as it appears to be their decision to stop syncing with UV per previous comments, not the studio's mandate. They at the ones complicating it further, not MA. Don't know why they chose to do this (again, assuming it was them) as it is hostile to end users and doesn't serve any obvious purpose (unless there is some cost to them we aren't aware of). The percentage of movie purchasers that are concerned about having UV can't be notable enough for them to pull this just to drive redemptions and purchases here vs. other stores.

      As for it remaining on the service after disconnecting, to me that is a great thing vs. UV. The iTunes issue is something on them, not on MA as it would be the same case if you had gotten it from them and didn't connect MA.
      The benefit can be seen with things like DMA and Microsoft Movies where they split but you still had your Disney movies on the MSFT service if you use that for things like Xbox playback. Could happen with one of the retailers and MA but this removes any immediate end user pain.
      As for the "for 2 years", where did you see that? I haven't see any time frame around the movies remaining on the de-linked store, only that they remained, implying "forever".

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        #33
        Re: Is VUDU stopping MA redemptions from porting to UV? Are you seeing gaps?

        I know Vudu probably really doesn't have a choice in this, but is UV probably much on it's last legs? I can't remove shared people from myuv.com. The two people I have shared out my collection to are "unlinked" in VUDU. My friend deleted his UV collection on myuv.com (he didn't have barely anything) and it still is there.

        Meanwhile Disney re-launched a superior site with superior service and almost all the movies I had in UV/Vudu (ok like 1/4 are missing I think) but if that gets reconciled, UV becomes old and redundant.

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          #34
          Re: Is VUDU stopping MA redemptions from porting to UV? Are you seeing gaps?

          I think I have this figured, this is kinda like the high-def disc wars of a decade ago. Only no real war, just studios are jumping ship.
          UV big studio supporters:
          Sony Pictures Entertainment
          Universal Studios
          Paramount Motion Pictures Group
          Warner Bros. Entertainment
          Fox Entertainment Group

          MA big studio supporters:
          Disney
          Sony Pictures Entertainment
          Universal Studios
          Warner Bros. Entertainment
          Fox Entertainment Group

          So no MGM (UV support for them has been erratic) and no Paramount. Add Disney as the main driver, and everyone just about jumped ship. UV will be dead in a couple years.

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            #35
            Re: Is VUDU stopping MA redemptions from porting to UV? Are you seeing gaps?

            Originally posted by IPhoneUser View Post
            When UV goes away, so will D2D. I plan on converting all my eligible titles in the months to come.
            Well that might or might not be true. Vudu does the disc-to-digital stuff, the question is will MA support it? But just in case; I'd do as you say just to be sure.

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              #36
              Re: Is VUDU stopping MA redemptions from porting to UV? Are you seeing gaps?

              Originally posted by Donborvio View Post
              superior site with superior service
              you're missing 25% of your library but you are referring to it as superior???? that's odd....

              and what about TV titles??

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                #37
                Re: Is VUDU stopping MA redemptions from porting to UV? Are you seeing gaps?

                Originally posted by SinGA View Post
                you're missing 25% of your library but you are referring to it as superior???? that's odd....

                and what about TV titles??
                Well that gap will probably be resolved once Paramount, MGM, etc get on board with MA. It's superior because the website works, there are not missing/broken features, etc. UV feels like an afterthought now.

                TV titles is a good point, hopefully those are reconciled because HBO has been on digital copies for a while. I would think something would be worked out, but really that is the one advantage right now.

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                  #38
                  Re: Is VUDU stopping MA redemptions from porting to UV? Are you seeing gaps?

                  Originally posted by Donborvio View Post
                  superior site with superior service
                  I laughed at this. With the amount of movies in my collection, MA hasnt worked in a week for me. There is no movie counter, so I have to scroll to the very bottom of the My Movies section and wait for 10x to load at a time until 6000+ movies have loaded, right click and inspect the page. Highlight the DIV that has the movies, copy the inner HTML. Take that HTML to a HTML Beautifier online... copy the result into Excel. Sort that result in excel... scroll to the bottom and find and count the tags <div class="_2yLD_ltKXxaw-GtkBcWbAT"> just to make sure I can see my movie count. Superior site for sure!

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                    #39
                    Re: Is VUDU stopping MA redemptions from porting to UV? Are you seeing gaps?

                    Originally posted by Craiggers89 View Post
                    I laughed at this. With the amount of movies in my collection, MA hasnt worked in a week for me. There is no movie counter, so I have to scroll to the very bottom of the My Movies section and wait for 10x to load at a time until 6000+ movies have loaded, right click and inspect the page. Highlight the DIV that has the movies, copy the inner HTML. Take that HTML to a HTML Beautifier online... copy the result into Excel. Sort that result in excel... scroll to the bottom and find and count the tags <div class="_2yLD_ltKXxaw-GtkBcWbAT"> just to make sure I can see my movie count. Superior site for sure!
                    Well I'm betting they'll make improvements. Meanwhile here on Vudu, I'm still waiting to create my own movie groups or split them, hide or delete titles, etc.

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                      #40
                      Re: Is VUDU stopping MA redemptions from porting to UV? Are you seeing gaps?

                      Originally posted by Donborvio View Post
                      Well I'm betting they'll make improvements. Meanwhile here on Vudu, I'm still waiting to create my own movie groups or split them, hide or delete titles, etc.
                      I'd like just a simple "favorites" category, with an "add to favorites" option.

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                        #41
                        Re: Is VUDU stopping MA redemptions from porting to UV? Are you seeing gaps?

                        Originally posted by Donborvio View Post
                        Meanwhile Disney re-launched a superior site with superior service and almost all the movies I had in UV/Vudu (ok like 1/4 are missing I think) but if that gets reconciled, UV becomes old and redundant.
                        MA shows 6127 movies
                        Amazon is showing 6478

                        I'm not feeling that this is "superior"

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                          #42
                          Re: Is VUDU stopping MA redemptions from porting to UV? Are you seeing gaps?

                          Originally posted by Donborvio View Post
                          Well that gap will probably be resolved once Paramount, MGM, etc get on board with MA. It's superior because the website works, there are not missing/broken features, etc. UV feels like an afterthought now.

                          TV titles is a good point, hopefully those are reconciled because HBO has been on digital copies for a while. I would think something would be worked out, but really that is the one advantage right now.
                          Being able to Share UV titles is a huge advantage.

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                            #43
                            Re: Is VUDU stopping MA redemptions from porting to UV? Are you seeing gaps?

                            Originally posted by Squatting Hen View Post
                            Being able to Share UV titles is a huge advantage.
                            I haven't tried it yet but Google Play has a Family Share option that should share MA titles including Disney.

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                              #44
                              Re: Is VUDU stopping MA redemptions from porting to UV? Are you seeing gaps?

                              Reading this thread got me so frustrated. On the first day I signed up to Movies Anywhere, several of my films transferred from Amazon to Vudu and went to Ultraviolet. I then bought additional films from Amazon, Google, and iTunes and they all went to Vudu but not all went to UV. 2 didn't go. All films were bought on the same day seconds apart. I contacted Vudu who informed me that because I bought the film from a MA partner and even though it is UV eligible, it won't transfer to UV. They said that I have to buy it from Vudu for it to go to UV and MA. Originally, I thought it was just MA trying to stop people from double dipping. Vudu blamed it on MA's policy. But then I realized that this will be good for Vudu. It will make people want to buy from them. And now that I came to this thread, I got the confirmation that this is more a Vudu policy instead of a MA policy. That frustrates me. Why is Vudu doing this? Just to force people to buy from them? That's annoying!

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                                #45
                                Re: Is VUDU stopping MA redemptions from porting to UV? Are you seeing gaps?

                                Originally posted by Squatting Hen View Post
                                Being able to Share UV titles is a huge advantage.
                                There's additional logins ala Netflix right in the MA account.

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