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    #16
    Re: Questions before purchasing VUDU

    Originally posted by Nded View Post
    Yeah, I'm running 2 right now with a 7MB/500KB cable connection and having no problems. My initial testing seems to indicate that I can stream instant HD to both at the same time, so you should be in good shape when the instant HD software patch is released to the field.
    I'm testing with 2 as well, but I do see a significant more uptake in upload traffic with 2 boxes. I have run simultaneous SD downloads no problem..No HD yet, but that should be fun whenever I am able...

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      #17
      Re: Questions before purchasing VUDU

      Originally posted by Nded View Post
      Yeah, I'm running 2 right now with a 7MB/500KB cable connection and having no problems. My initial testing seems to indicate that I can stream instant HD to both at the same time, so you should be in good shape when the instant HD software patch is released to the field.
      That's great to know. Instant play is the most important feature to me. Being able to get HD with instant play will be awesome. I was a bit worried since we couldn't try it with the Bourne movies but I'll take your word for it now.

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        #18
        Re: Questions before purchasing VUDU

        Originally posted by NA9D View Post
        I don't consider downloads to be as significant a contributor to the data usage as uploads since they don't happen as often.
        Is that true? It seemed to me that downloads were fairly ongoing as well. I assumed it was for DB and SW updates which seem to happen fairly regularly.

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          #19
          Re: Questions before purchasing VUDU

          Originally posted by NA9D View Post
          I'm testing with 2 as well, but I do see a significant more uptake in upload traffic with 2 boxes. I have run simultaneous SD downloads no problem..No HD yet, but that should be fun whenever I am able...
          Is there any reason that the upload traffic wouldn't just be 2X a single box with 2 boxes?

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            #20
            Re: Questions before purchasing VUDU

            Originally posted by redwein View Post
            Is there any reason that the upload traffic wouldn't just be 2X a single box with 2 boxes?
            In a situation where you aren't using any QOS controls that will likely be the case. With QOS in place you can put your own limits in place.

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              #21
              Re: Questions before purchasing VUDU

              Originally posted by redwein View Post
              Is that true? It seemed to me that downloads were fairly ongoing as well. I assumed it was for DB and SW updates which seem to happen fairly regularly.
              From what I can see, the upload traffic is there most of the time. The download traffic varies a lot more. I expect that as the movie library gets larger over time that the subsequent database updates will get smaller. Same thing with the firmware.

              But right now, yeah, maybe downloads account for more than I expect. I wish I could use PRTG to tally the data from an individual IP on the LAN, but the only way to do that would be to run all my LAN traffic through the PC running PRTG and using its packet sniffer. But I really don't think I want to do that...

              Wall Watcher might be able to do it, but I haven't messed with it for a while..

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                #22
                Re: Questions before purchasing VUDU

                Originally posted by NA9D View Post
                MattDawg,

                The bandwidth usage when streaming a movie is just over 2 Mb/sec. This isn't the same as what the Vudu does when it is idle and serving movies.

                As for Comcast protocol blocking, the Vudu protocol is not bit torrent and so Comcast doesn't know to block it. But I think with all the lawsuits going around, that they are going to have a problem continuing this behavior of blocking services.

                But the total amount of monthly data usage the Vudu takes up is not that much. It's probably less than 30 Gigabytes (we calculate it elsewhere in these forums and I'm not doing it again). Movies themselves are around 1.5 to 2 GB in SD.

                HD streaming, when it becomes available, will require higher than 2 Mb/sec data rate to be sure and the file size will also be correspondingly bigger.


                As for the 24 hr viewing window - well, that's life for any kind of OnDemand rental these days be it from your cable company, Vudu, Amazon-Tivo, etc. That's Hollywoods terms at present. We encourage people to rent from the indie studios that have given Vudu users 48 hours...

                The VC-1 stuff like HD movies are massive..you known 22-24GB, granted some of that stuff is not the movie, but I guess it would be roughly 5:1 still versus your SD solution because that's how it figures DVD vs. HD. That would make VUDU HDs in the neighborhood of 6-10GB for a single film. If 50GB is reserved for rentals....that's 5 HD rentals and 20 purchased HD titles and then the VUDU box is full.

                I guess that means that VUDU will have to turn up the external USB port if HD really takes flight and then I am not sure how that would work. Would VUDU have to provide that USB hardware because of encryption? One imagines the studios would flip if people could move external USB drives between VUDUs...but what about that guy with 5 VUDUs...certainly HE should be able to move the USB device between all the VUDUs HE owns...he can't be asked to pay for the same content different times!

                I know VUDU has probably thought all these things through because this think was incubated for so many years before launch.

                I think the concept of VUDU is tremendous it's just that 250GB is going to get consumed so fast...I think...especially if you're using the VUDU to buy movies.

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                  #23
                  Re: Questions before purchasing VUDU

                  Originally posted by MattDawg View Post
                  The VC-1 stuff like HD movies are massive..you known 22-24GB, granted some of that stuff is not the movie, but I guess it would be roughly 5:1 still versus your SD solution because that's how it figures DVD vs. HD. That would make VUDU HDs in the neighborhood of 6-10GB for a single film. If 50GB is reserved for rentals....that's 5 HD rentals and 20 purchased HD titles and then the VUDU box is full.

                  I guess that means that VUDU will have to turn up the external USB port if HD really takes flight and then I am not sure how that would work. Would VUDU have to provide that USB hardware because of encryption? One imagines the studios would flip if people could move external USB drives between VUDUs...but what about that guy with 5 VUDUs...certainly HE should be able to move the USB device between all the VUDUs HE owns...he can't be asked to pay for the same content different times!

                  I know VUDU has probably thought all these things through because this think was incubated for so many years before launch.

                  I think the concept of VUDU is tremendous it's just that 250GB is going to get consumed so fast...I think...especially if you're using the VUDU to buy movies.
                  Good math, bad assumptions. The Vudu uses a much better compression algorithm, H.264 (a superior subset of MPEG-4) instead of the less efficient MPEG-2 method on DVD's. Ergo, the SD movies average 1.5-2GB and the HD movie files average 4GB. If you do go crazy and fill your hard drive, we are only a few months away from virtually infinite storage expansion via the USB ports.
                  Last edited by Nded; 12-23-2007, 05:33 PM.

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                    #24
                    Re: Questions before purchasing VUDU

                    Originally posted by MattDawg View Post
                    ...but what about that guy with 5 VUDUs...certainly HE should be able to move the USB device between all the VUDUs HE owns...he can't be asked to pay for the same content different times!
                    For me (the guy with the 5 Vudus), I don't plan to ever buy movies if I can avoid it. I would be perfectly happy to rent everything and pay for every viewing. As a result, I don't plan to ever use the USB extender (or whatever it will be called). When they allow you to remove movies from your HD and re-download for free in the future, I would probably buy some movies. But I would only do that if something I wanted was only available for purchase and I was too impatient to wait for it to become available for rental.

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                      #25
                      Re: Questions before purchasing VUDU

                      The rental space on the Vudu is unlimited because as rentals are watched and expire, the drive space is freed up.

                      There is space for probably 50 to 75 SD movies and you are correct when you say about 25 to 30 or so HD movies.

                      The reason why Nded said a few months for external drive storage is that Vudu announced this feature would be available in 6 months and that was a couple months ago.

                      The idea is that the Vudu would format the hard drive itself and effectively take control of it. The data would be encrypted on the drive and not be usable on another Vudu (ie: the Smartcard on your Vudu locks all content to that Vudu and that Smartcard).

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