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Are there really limitations and restrictions on our digital movie locker?

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    #31
    Re: Are there really limitations and restrictions on our digital movie locker?

    Originally posted by jeffpn View Post
    He's referring to the ability of a device to store a movie. I'm sure if the technology takes off, you'll see a new breed of Blu Ray players that have built in hard drives.
    Some Blue Rays already have hard drives for storing music and photos and movies. I wouldn't invest in a hard drive in a Blue Ray player when everything else is moving to things that are cloud based, or at least solutions that are more portable. Almost everything these days have USB ports. It would make more sense to allow movies to be stored on flash drives and then just plug and play on any TV or Blue Ray that has a USB port. Even better is to make your movies available in your wireless network.

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      #32
      Re: Are there really limitations and restrictions on our digital movie locker?

      Originally posted by tfisher View Post
      Yes, but having a library of movies stored in CFF format without an interface like Vudu's to browse and search for the movie you are looking for woulld not be the ideal setup.

      Just as an example, I have the WDTV Live Hub, which has a built-in 1TB hard drive.....it's factory interface is ok to browse your collection, But I use one of the community-developed versions, which really gives a choice of looks...I currently use it to view ripped Blu-rays I purchased.....On the Hub I have 130 movies downloaded to it from VUDU, yes right now I have to use the VUDU interface to access them....I hope when CFF is deployed, I can place the rest of my collection into my NAS.....I really though something would come up at CES....

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        #33
        Re: Are there really limitations and restrictions on our digital movie locker?

        Originally posted by canadien37 View Post
        Just as an example, I have the WDTV Live Hub, which has a built-in 1TB hard drive.....it's factory interface is ok to browse your collection, But I use one of the community-developed versions, which really gives a choice of looks...I currently use it to view my ripped Blu-rays I purchased.....On the Hub I have 130 movies downloaded to it from VUDU, yes right now I have to use the VUDU interface to access them....I hope when CFF is deployed, I can place the rest of my collection into my NAS.....I really though something would come up at CES....
        Now that sounds cool...that is more in line with what I would like to have. The next thing would be having access to your hub from the web so that you can actually take your movies with you.

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          #34
          Re: Are there really limitations and restrictions on our digital movie locker?

          Originally posted by sbuberl View Post
          It's basically a modified version of MPEG4 movie container format I think. But it will support multiple DRM schemes in one file so you can open on different types of machines that use different DRMs (like PlayReady on Windows). When they launch, I guess either some existing UV apps (Vudu, Flixster, etc) will change to support reading CFF files for downloaded files or maybe new apps will appear for playing CFF files. Won't know for sure until it launches.
          It may also be done via a firmware update in the player that can decode the DRM in the file and allow it to play, no matter where it is stored.......that will provide the ability to play files w/o being connected to the internet....In the case of my WD that means I can use my current Media Library interface to watch my UV films stored on NAS....

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            #35
            Re: Are there really limitations and restrictions on our digital movie locker?

            Originally posted by tfisher View Post
            Now that sounds cool...that is more in line with what I would like to have. The next thing would be having access to your hub from the web so that you can actually take your movies with you.
            You know, I haven't even thought about that aspect of it.....portability is not that important to me as this setup feeds a home cinema....I do know my NAS has a web server if I ever wanted to change my mind....

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              #36
              Re: Are there really limitations and restrictions on our digital movie locker?

              Originally posted by mike568 View Post
              I hope the PS3 gets an update to support cff once cff launches.
              I hope so, too. My only concern is that currently the PS3's playback of Network content is extremely picky and the interface is not that great looking, would love to see an app that corrects the unsightliness (like an XBMC interface). We'll just have to wait and see.

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                #37
                Re: Are there really limitations and restrictions on our digital movie locker?

                Guys i'm hoping this won't happen...but i wouldn't be surprised if movies start vanishing from our UV lockers in the next 3-5 years, or they start charging to view them. It states clearly on the UV code from WB: "If offer redeemed prior to deadline, delivery of streaming and downloads available at no charge for 3 years" "Compatible devices subject to change". I am trying to trust VUDU/UV but with all the fine print i simply cannot. Never forgo your discs...i am going to hang on to mine. Some believe the UV service is just a trap to keep us from sharing our content with friends and family. For now I am enjoying my digital movies, whether they stay there, I guess time will tell.

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                  #38
                  Re: Are there really limitations and restrictions on our digital movie locker?

                  Originally posted by cpr3584 View Post
                  Guys i'm hoping this won't happen...but i wouldn't be surprised if movies start vanishing from our UV lockers in the next 3-5 years, or they start charging to view them. It states clearly on the UV code from WB: "If offer redeemed prior to deadline, delivery of streaming and downloads available at no charge for 3 years" "Compatible devices subject to change". I am trying to trust VUDU/UV but with all the fine print i simply cannot. Never forgo your discs...i am going to hang on to mine. Some believe the UV service is just a trap to keep us from sharing our content with friends and family. For now I am enjoying my digital movies, whether they stay there, I guess time will tell.
                  Have you read the UVVU offer?

                  Link: http://uvvu.com/uv-offer-details.php
                  From UVVU.com

                  "UltraViolet Rights
                  When an Account Member adds an UltraViolet title to the Account's Collection, the record of this title does not expire and will remain in the Collection unless an Account Member deletes it, or if the Account is terminated by a Member."

                  A title will never be removed from your account! Now you are correct that they can charge after the 1st year for continued streaming access, but I don't think Vudu or any provider would attempt it because it would cause a huge consumer backlash. So titles will never vanish from your UV account...

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                    #39
                    Re: Are there really limitations and restrictions on our digital movie locker?

                    Originally posted by canadien37 View Post
                    Just as an example, I have the WDTV Live Hub, which has a built-in 1TB hard drive.....it's factory interface is ok to browse your collection, But I use one of the community-developed versions, which really gives a choice of looks...I currently use it to view ripped Blu-rays I purchased.....On the Hub I have 130 movies downloaded to it from VUDU, yes right now I have to use the VUDU interface to access them....I hope when CFF is deployed, I can place the rest of my collection into my NAS.....I really though something would come up at CES....
                    I want to be clear here, since this sounds like what I've been looking for.

                    You can access Vudu from the device and download (not stream) the movies from Vudu to the internal HD? Can you also play them back if the box is not connected to the internet? Does it support 3D Vudu?

                    Thanks much

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                      #40
                      Re: Are there really limitations and restrictions on our digital movie locker?

                      Originally posted by jeremymc7 View Post
                      I want to be clear here, since this sounds like what I've been looking for.

                      You can access Vudu from the device and download (not stream) the movies from Vudu to the internal HD? Can you also play them back if the box is not connected to the internet? Does it support 3D Vudu?

                      Thanks much
                      Short answer...Not yet.

                      Long answer, if you use Vudu-to-go to download on a PC you don't need an internet connection, the DRM is stored locally. If you use the Vudu app on PS3 you must still have an internet connection for DRM verification. I cannot say on devices like the WD LiveHub, which also allows downloading to local storage.

                      The great news. Once the CFF (Common File Format) is released by UV, most Vudu devices will likely support CFF playback from local storage, and hopefully networked storage solutions, with no imternet connection after initial DRM key download/verification (I'm still hazy on how that will work). You should be able to move or copy the file onto whatever you want and play it on any registered 'player'.

                      I have no info on 3d.

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