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    #31
    Re: DVD Sales in Decline / VoD Sales UP

    Also, the word "safeguard" is prominent on Vudu's D2D page.

    Safeguard...against what? Loss or damage to the physical disc is the only rational interpretation. The discussion of the disc in the FAQs highlights that you get to keep it (i.e., you don't have to surrender it to obtain a digital copy).

    If there was a requirement that you keep it, it would be prominently noted.

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      #32
      Re: DVD Sales in Decline / VoD Sales UP

      Originally posted by nyunole View Post
      Also, the word "safeguard" is prominent on Vudu's D2D page.

      Safeguard...against what? Loss or damage to the physical disc is the only rational interpretation. The discussion of the disc in the FAQs highlights that you get to keep it (i.e., you don't have to surrender it to obtain a digital copy).

      If there was a requirement that you keep it, it would be prominently noted.

      NYunole,

      I respectfully disagree. The ToS D2D section seems unambiguous when I read it.

      -Walter


      "You may have the opportunity to convert your physical Blu-ray and DVD discs into electronic copies that may be stored and viewed through the VUDU services via the Disc to Digital program. The Disc to Digital program is only available for physical Blu-ray and DVD titles that have been legitimately purchased and are presently owned by you. VUDU reserves the right to refuse conversion of a title, or to limit or cancel your access to a previously converted title, if VUDU reasonably believes the title does not meet, or no longer meets, the purchase and ownership criteria set forth in this paragraph."

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        #33
        Re: DVD Sales in Decline / VoD Sales UP

        Mr. Echopulse posted a new thread with video links. I recommend watching them. They are very informative.

        I transcribed a quote from the video since it deals with the topic of this thread.

        Talking is Jim Taylor, Head of Technology & Product Development, DECE / UV.

        He is speaking of the sale of UV redemption codes on ebay:
        "I am not a lawyer, so I wont address the question if it is legal or not, but the interesting thing to me is the view point that I take is anything that helps consumers build a library of content is a good thing.

        That is part of the reason that the studios have embraced WalMart's Disc-to-Digital program and some other programs, at pretty low cost. For $2, I can take a dvd I actually bought used at a store for $1 then bring it into the UltraViolet system.

        Part of the reason for that is the studios realize that once consumers get kind of a critical mass of an UltraViolet collection, that is what will drive them to buying more content and new content often at full price.

        So, it is not necessarily a bad thing. Again, I am not speaking for UltraViolet nor as a lawyer, officially, but you think that there is a demand for the codes. That the prices are being driven up on ebay. That it is helping people build content.

        So as long as it doesn't get out of hand, you can actually look at it as a good thing for the ecosystem. That there is interest. That people want to buy the codes. That they want to build their libraries.

        Just like, you know, when we were all teenagers taping songs off of the radio for free, eventually we all became consumers and we paid for albums and CDs and everything else. All that kind of behavior on the fringes of the system can actually be good for the system.
        "


        I think the question in this thread about the re-sale of a DVD or Bluray which has been brought into the UV system through the D2D program can be said to be technically illegal, but in the drive to reach "critical mass" it is doubtfull anyone would ever be brought to account. Instead, I think it would be considered another "fringe" behavior which may actually be good for the ecosystem in this initial phase where the single goal is a drive for critical mass.

        As Mr. Taylor says, if it "gets out of hand" it may need be delt with l8tr.

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