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Could "Oz The Great And Powerful" Be Disney's First UV Release?

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    #76
    Re: Could "Oz The Great And Powerful" Be Disney's First UV Release?

    Originally posted by tsken02 View Post
    Looks like Vudu is the only provider that does not allow download to iPad. Both iTunes and Amazon support it.
    Incorrect. The current Vudu app on my iPad mini certainly supports downloading... there is a download button next to each title, as well as a "My Downloads" tab to see all of my previously downloaded titles that I can watch offline.

    Originally posted by tsken02 View Post
    Vudu is the only provider with Blu-ray player support?
    Also incorrect. My Sony Blu Ray (and many, many others) has support for another provider: Amazon Instant.

    My Samsung Blu Ray has support for VUDU.

    I will say though that these apps on Blu Ray players are rather slow and clunky. They're also bad on my TIVo Premiere. Instead I access nearly all of my streaming apps via Roku (and sometimes, AppleTV) where the UI is fast and quite a bit more elegant.

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      #77
      Re: Could "Oz The Great And Powerful" Be Disney's First UV Release?

      Originally posted by Fofer View Post
      Incorrect. This is no longer true. "iTunes in the Cloud" now includes movies, which means purchased movies can be streamed directly from the iTunes Store to an AppleTV. No "LAN computer with a downloaded copy loaded into iTunes, iTunes open, and with Homesharing on" required anymore. It now works like VUDU.
      ~sorry for pulling a quote from another post. I just wanted to reply to both in one comment.


      Thank you for correcting me. I do actually have to admit I thought I remembered that being the case while I was writing my reply and should of checked to see if that was the case before I put my point #1 into words.

      However, the iTunes in the cloud will only work for purchased content.

      I have my Disney collection ripped via DVD-decrypter / Handbrake. To stream these is still the old school way.

      To do the same with Vudu, I just pay the nominal D2D fee and have it done by a pro and able to be streamed. Apple does not have a D2D program.

      It sounds like you have Tivo, AppleTV, Roku, and a Bluray Player with apps. I have a Roku XS, PS3, and AppleTV. Of the three, the AppleTV has the slickest user interface. The stupid toy remote that came with it broke and I am using my TV remote instead, but still of the consumer set-top boxes out there, the AppleTV interface I find the best. I can sort my library in any custom category I want, zip through titles quickly, and the album artwork/description displays looks really cool.

      Of the devices you have, which do you like the best?


      Also incorrect. My Sony Blu Ray (and many, many others) has support for another provider: Amazon Instant.

      So true. Amazon Instant Video and Amazon Prime are respectable services. We have prime and watch it often. Their SVoD content is top shelf.

      I have never bought any entertainment media from Amazon Instant Video. I just do not like the idea of my digital entertainment purchases to be tied to a single company. This is the same reason I have never bought any movies from iTunes/AppleTV. However, them giving away a top shelf SVoD service for free with a prime membership which we have just to get free shipping through the year, is a really nice bonus they give to their customers.

      If Amazon became DECE members and also offered 1080p, Vudu would have a very difficult time. I do not see either of those happening anytime soon though.

      In our house, this leaves Netflix and Amazon Prime as the two SVoD services and Vudu as our family's static iVoD library. I use the iTunes / AppleTV to temporally stream our ripped Disney titles till they join DECE.

      We have dropped all forms of broadcast service (Satellite and MSO-Cable). With the VAST amount of content we can access over the DSL modem, it is silly to also add to that a broadcast provider. It would be impossible to watch all of that (broadcast, SVoD x2, iVoD) even if we all dropped out of society and did nothing but watch TV all day.

      Even then, we all would have to no longer sleep to stay abreast of all the content we would have available via the TV remote.

      Considering we all do sleep and also are busy with work/school, SVoD x2 & our static iVoD library is more then enough entertainment content at our disposal.

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        #78
        Re: Could "Oz The Great And Powerful" Be Disney's First UV Release?

        Originally posted by Walter-S_North_Carolina View Post
        Of the devices you have, which do you like the best?
        Living Room TV:
        - jailbroken AppleTV 2 with extra software installed
        - Roku XD
        - Sony Blu Ray with some apps
        - Xbox 360

        Bedroom TV:
        - jailbroken AppleTV 2 with extra software installed
        - Roku 3
        - Samsung Blu Ray with some apps

        (And a TiVo Premiere that is connected to both TV's.)

        I don't use the TiVo or Xbox or Blu Rays for streaming at all. Their UI is slow and clunky and ugly... a real pain.

        I use the AppleTV primarily for AirPlay, for iTunes Match, for watching trailers, for the rare Digital Copy redemption, for Netflix (it looks better on the AppleTV than it does on the Roku. And I'm not just talking about UI, I am talking about PQ, too.)

        And I use the Roku for any other streaming: HBO GO, Amazon Instant, The Onion, etc.

        Hard to pick which one between those two I like best... happy they are inexpensive enough, to have both. If the Roku had AirPlay it'd be a slam dunk. But it doesn't. If an app exists on both (like Hulu) then I use the AppleTV (because, like you, I agree that the UI is just so much better.) But I like the Roku for all of the other channels it offers that the AppleTV doesn't have. At least not yet?

        It'll be interesting to see if Apple ever lets this little set top box evolve. The sheer wealth of streaming options on the Roku (not to mention, the excellent "private listening" feature of the Roku 3, with the headphone jack in the remote, as well as the lesser known "private channels') are very, very compelling points in its favor.

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          #79
          Re: Could "Oz The Great And Powerful" Be Disney's First UV Release?

          Another new article:

          http://www.screendigest.com/news/201...cker/view.html

          This one is the most well written to date

          Thomas Nash & Tony Gunnarsson - Screen Digest

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            #80
            Re: Could "Oz The Great And Powerful" Be Disney's First UV Release?

            VICTORY!!!

            the era of Apple's attempt to corner the Digital Copy market is over!!!

            Their last holdout (Disney Studios) has broken ranks.

            Technology is a fast moving industry. Apple's dominance was none too short for my tastes.

            If someone wants to listen to Justin Beiber's Baby-Baby-Baby-O on an iPod, Apple can still own that for all I care.

            For an in-home movie industry entertainment collection that also has mobility features to match a modern lifestyle, they are ill suited and I am glad to see their attempt to corner the market come crashing down in flames.

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              #81
              Re: Could "Oz The Great And Powerful" Be Disney's First UV Release?

              You and me both, Walter! I have never been an "i" fan, and I never will be! Very happy to see the beginnings of this happen sooner rather than later.

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                #82
                Re: Could "Oz The Great And Powerful" Be Disney's First UV Release?

                "Beginnings" of what? Apple's not going anywhere. This title will be available to consumers as a digital copy on either Vudu, iTunes or Amazon Instant Video. And yes, of course, choice is good.

                It's not like Apple had any traction on "cornering the market" in this space, anyway.

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                  #83
                  Re: Could "Oz The Great And Powerful" Be Disney's First UV Release?

                  Originally posted by Fofer View Post
                  "Beginnings" of what? Apple's not going anywhere. This title will be available to consumers as a digital copy on either Vudu, iTunes or Amazon Instant Video. And yes, of course, choice is good.

                  It's not like Apple had any traction on "cornering the market" in this space, anyway.

                  Yes, for a spell, it looked like iTunes was going to be a digital copy prerequisite defacto standard.

                  To think that both Apple and Amazon do not have intentions to corner the market, as Microsoft had done with the PC operating system, is delusional. Both companies do. In fact, Vudu has the same intention.

                  I am just glad to not be forced to swallow Apple's horse-pill.

                  To say Apple is not going anywhere is again not acknowledging the ebbs and flows of the consumer technology industry.

                  At one point, I owned an iPac telephone. It was made by Hewlett Packerd and ran Windows CE. This was seven years before the first iPhone. It had mobile internet, a touch screen interface, and a built in cell phone. It also sync'ed with both my work and personal e-mail accounts.

                  Apple did not make anything new with the iPhone which has propelled their current growth spike and what goes up must succumb to gravity too.

                  Especially in the technology industry.

                  Apple had ever intention of cornering the Digital Copy market. Their efforts have failed as of today. The iTunes logo will no longer be on packaged movie industry products. The word for this is "DEFEAT", unambiguous and unarguable defeat.

                  Instead from this day on, every title who will intice consumers with a digital copy will either have the purple UV logo or in the case of Disney Studios, the DigitalCopy+ brand name.

                  To have Apple's last studio hold out break ranks and make iTunes only one of three and the Apple offer being the weakest of the three can not be seen as anything but the last straw breaking for their hopes in the Digital Copy market.

                  The digital copy battle field has been won and the Apple forces have been vacated.

                  EST of movie industry content is the next battlefield.

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                    #84
                    Re: Could "Oz The Great And Powerful" Be Disney's First UV Release?

                    Disney may be on board now, but FOX is still not really that far along to the party.

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                      #85
                      Re: Could "Oz The Great And Powerful" Be Disney's First UV Release?

                      The web site is back up now.

                      http://www.digitalcopyplus.com/

                      I don't see any change from the preview we had previous to the announcement.

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                        #86
                        Re: Could "Oz The Great And Powerful" Be Disney's First UV Release?

                        Originally posted by terpfan1980 View Post
                        Disney may be on board now, but FOX is still not really that far along to the party.

                        https://foxuv.com/

                        ...DECE members.

                        I can see why Disney could not abruptly halt offering iTunes copies. After all, their customers have been trained to use iTunes for Digital Copy redemption more so then all other studios.

                        I am beginning to think that the DigitalCopy+ initiative is simply a transitional step until the iTunes initeria they had built up recedes.

                        After training their customers for so long to go to iTunes for Digital copy redemption, they could not just halt that as an option.

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                          #87
                          Re: Could "Oz The Great And Powerful" Be Disney's First UV Release?

                          Originally posted by Walter-S_North_Carolina View Post
                          At one point, I owned an iPac telephone. It was made by Hewlett Packerd and ran Windows CE. This was seven years before the first iPhone. It had mobile internet, a touch screen interface, and a built in cell phone. It also sync'ed with both my work and personal e-mail accounts.

                          Apple did not make anything new with the iPhone
                          And it never took off in popularity because the usability wasn't there; the UI sucked. Apple did, indeed, bring something new to the table (once again) and were rewarded handily for it.

                          Originally posted by Walter-S_North_Carolina View Post
                          Apple had ever intention of cornering the Digital Copy market. Their efforts have failed as of today. The iTunes logo will no longer be on packaged movie industry products. The word for this is "DEFEAT", unambiguous and unarguable defeat.
                          Quite dramatic, are you?

                          Listen, as I mentioned above, I've got a myriad of devices, and appreciate innovation from all the companies out there. I've personally chosen to embrace VUDU and UltraViolet for my online movie collection over iTunes and Apple (even though I my Apple gear is well-situated to playback the latter.) Why? Because VUDU brought something new to the table for me, and that was interface and ease, and the ability for me to inexpensively convert my existing DVD, Blu Ray, and VHS tapes into online copies, in store and now at home. So I chose with my dollars.

                          It's the knee-jerk glee over "declared defeat" I'm not quite grokking here. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

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                            #88
                            Re: Could "Oz The Great And Powerful" Be Disney's First UV Release?

                            Originally posted by Fofer View Post
                            Listen, as I mentioned above, I've got a myriad of devices, and appreciate innovation from all the companies out there. I've personally chosen to embrace VUDU and UltraViolet for my online movie collection over iTunes and Apple...
                            Innovation is a great thing...but integration is more important to me. I don't like being limited to an iPad or other Apple device and I don't like having to have an iTunes account.

                            Last time I tried to use Apple was an iPad. For me, it sucked. Why? Because it was not a stand-alone device. I had to create an iTunes account on my PC (by the way, their software totally screwed up my PC and I was unable to burn CDs from that point on...among other problems that started that day). I now have Android devices and I can load up MP3 and other files and manage everything myself. So much easier than the iTunes approach in my opinion.

                            I no longer own that iPad and will probably never buy another Apple product the rest of my life. But that's just me. I guess everyone has different opinions and expectations, that's why Apple will continue to be around...but I do think that as UV grows and as new apps are deployed for various devices it will hurt iTunes until the day that they join UltraViolet.

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                              #89
                              Re: Could "Oz The Great And Powerful" Be Disney's First UV Release?

                              Originally posted by tsken02 View Post
                              The web site is back up now.

                              http://www.digitalcopyplus.com/

                              I don't see any change from the preview we had previous to the announcement.
                              The full site (desktop site) seems to be back up but if the mobile site is loaded on a mobile device it still says to come back on June 11.

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                                #90
                                Re: Could "Oz The Great And Powerful" Be Disney's First UV Release?

                                Originally posted by Fofer View Post
                                It's the knee-jerk glee over "declared defeat" I'm not quite grokking here. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

                                Fofer,

                                today marks a MAJOR VICTORY for UV/Vudu as well as a MAJOR DEFEAT for Apple in the Digital Copy market.

                                The iTunes logo has been eradicated from packaged movie industry products.

                                You may try to brush this aside.

                                You may try to minimize by calling me melodramatic.

                                You may try suggest there is nothing to celebrate.

                                I disagree. Today marks the conclusive and definitive end to the all competition in the digital copy market. This battle is over. UV has won.

                                The next battle is in the EST market, which Apple currently is the market leader. To suggest we who are UV enthusiast (and I do understand you count yourself as one too) do have reason to celebrate today. Today is the day we have been sanctioned as the unrivaled winner of the digital copy market.

                                I make no apologies for basking in the victory and I consider this to be a dramatic turn of events where a technology I am enthusiastic about has been left as the only one still standing and has become the defacto standard going into the future.

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