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    Key Holdouts Will Determine if UltraViolet Simmers or Sizzles

    Key Holdouts Will Determine if UltraViolet Simmers or Sizzles

    ?After a shaky start UltraViolet is starting to pick up steam; however, several key players are not supporting the UV ecosystem,? comments senior analyst, Michael Inouye. ?Apple, Disney, and Amazon remain the most notable holdouts in the US, but other ecosystem players like Microsoft could further fragment the market if they do not adopt UV support. As more users sign up the pressures to support UV will certainly mount. While we expect the number of holdouts to decline, reaching universal support will prove an uphill battle.?
    I would really like to see Disney start offering their movies in UltraViolet as well as Amazon Instant Video support for UltraViolet.
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    Re: Key Holdouts Will Determine if UltraViolet Simmers or Sizzles

    that is a forecast of somewhere between 11 million to 20 million new UV accounts per year, according to ABI Research.

    Another way of looking at it is 900,000 - 1,600,000 new UV users per month forecasted for the next five years.

    Seems about right considering q1-13 added over two million.

    One would hope, that many consumers would sway the last holdouts to swallow their pride.

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      Re: Key Holdouts Will Determine if UltraViolet Simmers or Sizzles

      Even though there are 20M users, how many are actually active and didnt just signup and then throw up there hands confused. That right there is the real # that Amazon is probably waiting for.

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        Yeah, that's why Iger (Disney) said he is concerned about. UV needs a more simplified process for mainstream consumers. I think the way it should work is you register on UVVU.com and that automatically registers with the various studios that have their own sites. MovieRedeem.com is very simple and clear, the other studios are a bit more complicated and involving.

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          Re: Key Holdouts Will Determine if UltraViolet Simmers or Sizzles

          Originally posted by swiss21 View Post
          Yeah, that's why Iger (Disney) said he is concerned about. UV needs a more simplified process for mainstream consumers. I think the way it should work is you register on UVVU.com and that automatically registers with the various studios that have their own sites. MovieRedeem.com is very simple and clear, the other studios are a bit more complicated and involving.
          When I go to Flixster, it offers me an option to login using my Google credentials. There should be similar interoperability with UltraViolet. I should be able to sign into Flixster, Vudu, CinemaNow, etcetera using my UltraViolet account.

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            Re: Key Holdouts Will Determine if UltraViolet Simmers or Sizzles

            Originally posted by OSUGrad2X View Post
            Even though there are 20M users, how many are actually active and didnt just signup and then throw up there hands confused. That right there is the real # that Amazon is probably waiting for.

            If I go to a restaurant for the first time, I do not like the food, service, or value (or a combination of any of the three), I will probably not return.

            At first, the restaurant may feel they are succeeding because lots of customers are coming to eat at their establishment. Slowly, they will find no one is returning and will have to shutter and let someone else try to attract customers.

            The question is are the 1 million new users per month customers who will not return to the restaurant, but be counted as a statistic, or are they going to be return customers and the parking lot of the establishment will soon be difficult to find a free spot in.

            This is where I feel a better metric to gauge the success of UV instead of members who have signed up is what is each night's high water mark for simultaneous playbacks on a macro level in the ecosystem.

            Sadly, this metric is not public knowledge. I would have to believe it is soon to surpass AppleTV and Amazon Instant Video(i.e. what is the largest number of people viewing entertainment media in either streamed or downloaded form simultaneously each night).

            This, I feel, is a better metric to gauge acceptance since it is reflective of people integrating the technology into their daily lives. AppleTV may be getting people to buy via EST entertainment media and then download them to their computer's iTunes library, but how many people are actually watching this entertainment content? I would contend that this model is one of novelty like to a restaurant where customers try it, but end up not returning.

            I do think the UV model is much more conducive to being universally accepted and integrated into the daily lives of entertainment consumers. Not even mentioning that UV is the only restaurant in town that lets customers bring in their DVDs/Blurays and legally transfer them to the ecosystem for only a nominal fee.

            The macro nightly ecosystem wide simultaneous playback high water mark for UV is not going to be near the high water mark of Netfix anytime soon and may never surpass it since it is forecast that SVoD may well beat iVoD in overall acceptance, but I do believe UV will eclipse the numbers of viewers on a nightly basis from the other two leading EST/iVoD vendors (AppleTV & Amazon) sometime this year.

            In this aspect, UV will have won the lionshare of the new iVoD market, as is the studios' intention and may well gobble up both Apple and Amazon in the process as one or both join DECE.

            Adding 1 million new users per month will translate into an unambiguous uptick in viewers as well. I do agree though, not everyone will be return customers to the UV restaurant. However the same can be said for iTunes. I own an iTunes account, but have not made a single purchase. UV on the other hand has my full economic support and I have shifted all my entertainment media purchases to UV exclusive.

            I am sure many of the one million new users per month will be making the same decision. There will also be the UV account holders who were initially dormant who will start to utilize the service. This too will add to the people actually using the technology as apart of their daily lives.

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