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    My Digital Library

    I am seeking the advice of a true professional, as one can see from the following concern and questions I am a novice when it comes to the Disc to Digital feature. I have seen that there are quite a few people with a great deal of experience within these forums. My concern:

    I am interested in turning my movie collection into a digital library. I have done quite a bit of research yet still undecided. Several concerns exist that I am still unable to answer. I understand the Disc to Digital feature with the option to download the movies onto a source beyond the initial streaming capabilities. Several questions include:

    1. When I download a movie that I have transferred through the Disc to Digital option where does the download go? Is it something that I will always have or are there limitations to these features through UltraViolet?? For example, if you purchase a ripping software your digital copy can be filed away indefinitely. I need to know for fact that my investment through UltraViolet and online video services such as Flixster and Vudu will provide me the full rights and privileges.

    My concern is that when dealing with digital services you do not exactly have a ?hard copy? of an item. Worse case scenario, if Ultraviolet were to relinquish their business I need to know that I will still own what I paid for.


    2. Secondly, once downloaded what are my best options for protecting my investment on a source indefinitely? i.e. external hard drive, etc?

    Thank you for your time and patience in answering my questions.

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    Re: My Digital Library

    You can download your vudu/UV movies, but you have to play them through the vudu to go app, and it's pretty difficult to change the location of the files. When the UV common file format is launched, you will be able to move and copy files from one device to another and play them in any UV compatible player, whether hardware or software.

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      #3
      Re: My Digital Library

      First, thank you for taking the time to respond to my concerns.

      Now if I understand this correctly, it won't be until UltraViolet and their online video services create a common file format that I will actually own what I paid for. Essentially, any purchases we as consumers make only grants us the rights to view and "download" the file... But not actually own the file? ...That we paid to own.

      Is their atleast word of UltraViolet creating this common file or any idea when they willl be doing so?

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        Re: My Digital Library

        Originally posted by VuduJunky2013 View Post
        First, thank you for taking the time to respond to my concerns.

        Now if I understand this correctly, it won't be until UltraViolet and their online video services create a common file format that I will actually own what I paid for. Essentially, any purchases we as consumers make only grants us the rights to view and "download" the file... But not actually own the file? ...That we paid to own.

        Is their atleast word of UltraViolet creating this common file or any idea when they willl be doing so?
        the term "own" is slippery.

        For instance, with a DVD, what you own is a plastic disc which is rated by the National Archives at 5 years before loss of reflectivity begins to occur.

        On the disc is encoded a digital copy of a movie which you have rights to view.

        In this way, the D2D program is superior since there is no loss of reflectivity over time and subsequent degradation of signal.

        Redundant storage arrays on which the media is held are expensive. The limitation is economic, not technical. Technically speaking, there is no limit to how long media can be held in pristine condition on a streaming provider's redundant storage array. This is a big advantage over physical media.

        ...assuming the provider has a sustainable economic business model.

        With CFF (common file format), there is really no difference between it and a physical disc. You will still need a player to decode, just as a DVD needs.

        For me, the big advantage to the D2D program is where once I had a book shelf full of plastic discs collecting dust, now I have my library available from the click of a button on a remote. I find the titles are played back much more frequently with this added convenience.

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          Re: My Digital Library

          ...assuming the provider has a sustainable economic business model.


          This being my concern... What happens to all of our Disc to Digital downloads; not to mention the money and time we spent to acquire if UltraViolet relinquishes their business??

          Is it even worth taking the risk, or waiting until we know exactly what will transpire in the next few years? For me, I only have close to 100 transfers with now actual downloads. Someone like yourself obviously has quite a bit more vested in the UltraViolet business model.

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            #6
            Re: My Digital Library

            early adopters always have this risk.

            Somewhere out there are people with boxes full of HD-DVD titles who heavily bought into a format which ended.

            For me, I have been wanting to digitized my entertainment library for about a decade. The UV eco-system and the Vudu D2D program is the first method where this is possible from a streaming provider.

            There is no question there is risk for an early adopter like me. There has been some deeply troubling information in the past several weeks.

            If this is of concern to you, perhaps wait a year and see if UV is still going to be around long term. If I had to guess, it will be. Up to you.

            If you want to wait, you can rip and use PLEX. For me, this streaming method is way better then that though and worth the investment/risk.

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              #7
              Re: My Digital Library

              The common file format was always part of the UltraViolet system. It has been designed, and agreed to by the DECE consortium. It's in a beta period right now, which means the files are being encoded, and the players are being developed. The launch of the CFF is planned for the first half of this year. I hope it is launched this time, because it has been delayed before.

              http://www.uvvuwiki.com/images/c/cb/...rmat-1.1r1.pdf

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