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    #16
    Re: PS4?

    Originally posted by elwaylite View Post
    Do you have the PS4 running through something like an AVR that would allow you to pull up and see if it is sending out YCbCr 444 or RGB 444 for the VUDU app when a movie is playing?
    8-bit RGB 4:4:4 @ 60 Hz for compatible displays

    Chase

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      #17
      Re: PS4?

      Originally posted by home_theatre_man View Post
      Jake, thanks for being available to answer questions. We really appreciate it!

      Currently, the PS4 app does not switch the PCM stream to 5.1 and 2.0 depending on content. It is locked to 7.1 all the time. Is that something you might address in a future update?

      I would be curious to know the same information for the Xbox One app, as it is also locked to 7.1 (if '7.1 uncompressed' is selected in XBO settings).

      Chase
      PS4: We're working with Sony on this - currently PS4 doesn't provide a way for apps to choose the number of LPCM channels output, it just uses the max supported by the receiver/TV. However, we are working on being able to bitstream the encoded DD/DD+ audio directly.

      XBOne: as far as I know here apps have even less control since XBOne apps are mostly Windows Modern/Javascript-based. But I'll check with the developer who worked on the player part it it.

      Seems like in this generation both consoles tried to make audio and video settings all "automatic" from the system settings, which is probably what you want for games but not necessarily ideal for media apps

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        #18
        Re: PS4?

        Originally posted by Jake View Post
        PS4: We're working with Sony on this - currently PS4 doesn't provide a way for apps to choose the number of LPCM channels output, it just uses the max supported by the receiver/TV.
        I would investigate this. It was my assumption as well upon initial setup of PS4; however, I discovered that Netflix and Sony's Video Unlimited service (along with BD/DVD playback, which may or may not qualify as an app ) both switch the LPCM stream to 5.1. So it is possible. Unfortunately, the Netflix app also currently downmixes everything to the L/R channels prior to embedding in the 5.1 stream.

        Originally posted by Jake View Post
        However, we are working on being able to bitstream the encoded DD/DD+ audio directly.
        I always prefer seeing a raw Dolby stream to an LPCM decode, because I can monitor DialNorm offset and use DRC as needed. As long as it doesn't require making a PS4 system settings change to/from bitstream specifically for the VUDU app, direct access to the bitstream would be a welcome addition.

        Originally posted by Jake View Post
        XBOne: As far as I know here apps have even less control since XBOne apps are mostly Windows Modern/Javascript-based. But I'll check with the developer who worked on the player part of it.
        Thank you. As you say, it has been my experience that all XBO apps adhere strictly to the settings of the XBO console (as was the case with 360 except for DVD playback).

        Originally posted by Jake View Post
        Seems like in this generation both consoles tried to make audio and video settings all "automatic" from the system settings, which is probably what you want for games but not necessarily ideal for media apps.
        This makes more sense for XBO due to the complexities of coding operations such as Snap and OneGuide with different channels and sample rates. It is easier to leave one 48 kHz pipe wide open all the time and mix to it.

        Thanks again for your time.

        Chase

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          #19
          Re: PS4?

          Can anybody confirm?

          Will VUDU on the PS4 allow you to download rentals for later playback at your convenience? Not talking about downloads for buys, but downloads for rentals.

          This functionality was available (at one time at least, if not in the long run) on the PS3. And I think the PS3 was the only set-top box to ever be given that ability.

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            #20
            Re: PS4?

            Originally posted by Mister B.M. View Post
            Can anybody confirm?

            Will VUDU on the PS4 allow you to download rentals for later playback at your convenience? Not talking about downloads for buys, but downloads for rentals.

            This functionality was available (at one time at least, if not in the long run) on the PS3. And I think the PS3 was the only set-top box to ever be given that ability.
            Currently, the download feature is not available on the ps4.

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              #21
              Re: PS4?

              Thanks Dan. We'll just have to keep up with updates as they roll out, and hope that Sony opens things up to you developers to be able to make it as media-feature-rich as it can be. I hear that there isn't even a compatible media remote control available at this early juncture.

              BTW, my PS3 is in a box in a state of disassembly, so I am out of it on that platform. Do you know if VUDU downloads are still possible on the PS3? For rentals and buys?

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                #22
                Re: PS4?

                Originally posted by Mister B.M. View Post
                Thanks Dan. We'll just have to keep up with updates as they roll out, and hope that Sony opens things up to you developers to be able to make it as media-feature-rich as it can be. I hear that there isn't even a compatible media remote control available at this early juncture.

                BTW, my PS3 is in a box in a state of disassembly, so I am out of it on that platform. Do you know if VUDU downloads are still possible on the PS3? For rentals and buys?
                Yes, PS3 allows downloads and there is no plan to change that.

                PS4 currently only supports max 1GB download data for an app, which just isn't enough to download video?

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                  #23
                  Re: PS4?

                  Originally posted by Jake View Post
                  Yes, PS3 allows downloads and there is no plan to change that.

                  PS4 currently only supports max 1GB download data for an app, which just isn't enough to download video?

                  Is there any news on Sony increasing this ridiculous restriction yet? I love using VUDU but I've had nothing but buffering issues since moving to a PS4. The ability not to be able to download is making me regret selling my PS3 already. Its also making me cut right back on new Vudu purchases till it is sorted.

                  If not is there no way you can try and maximise the available buffer allowed. I notice that the Vudu ps4 app only uses 110mb, whilst both Amazon Instant and Netflix take up 1100mb of space. Presumably they are allocating as much space as they can for the buffer and caching as they can.

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                    #24
                    Re: PS4?

                    Originally posted by Adam_ME View Post
                    And it runs smoother and faster than even on the Oppo.
                    I didn't think that was possible

                    My Oppo 103 is considerably faster than any other device I have or have used. And I've tried most all Vudu 3D and 4K upscaling devices.

                    Does the Sony support Vudu 3D as well ?

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                      #25
                      Re: PS4?

                      Originally posted by jeremymc7 View Post
                      I didn't think that was possible

                      My Oppo 103 is considerably faster than any other device I have or have used. And I've tried most all Vudu 3D and 4K upscaling devices.

                      Does the Sony support Vudu 3D as well ?
                      I was misinformed. Please see Jake's post below
                      Last edited by DanielH; 03-25-2014, 11:48 AM.

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                        #26
                        Re: PS4?

                        Originally posted by DanielH View Post
                        The PS3 does support VUDU 3D. The PS4 doesn't, yet..
                        Unfortunately at last check the PS3 was limited to 720P in 3D though.

                        Hopefully Vudu is working on some 4K streaming for the PS4. It sounds like PS4 is supposed to support Sony's in house and Netflixs beta of their respective 4K offerings.

                        The day 4K streaming starts on the PS4 is the day I buy one.

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                          #27
                          Re: PS4?

                          PS3 and PS4 support 3D @ 720p. We are working with Sony to try to get 1080p 3D for PS4 (as well as bitreamed audio).

                          I don't see download support coming to the PS4 any time soon due to the way Sony/PS4 provides disk space for apps.

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                            #28
                            Re: PS4?

                            Originally posted by Jake View Post
                            PS3 and PS4 support 3D @ 720p. We are working with Sony to try to get 1080p 3D for PS4 (as well as bitreamed audio).

                            I don't see download support coming to the PS4 any time soon due to the way Sony/PS4 provides disk space for apps.
                            Thankyou Jake, I appreciate the honest reply on the matter.

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                              #29
                              Re: PS4?

                              Originally posted by Jake View Post
                              PS3 and PS4 support 3D @ 720p. We are working with Sony to try to get 1080p 3D for PS4 (as well as bitreamed audio).

                              I don't see download support coming to the PS4 any time soon due to the way Sony/PS4 provides disk space for apps.
                              Man, everyone wants to shove "streaming" down our throats, but none of these companies take into account people that have crappy HSI speed...

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                                #30
                                Re: PS4?

                                Originally posted by elwaylite View Post
                                Man, everyone wants to shove "streaming" down our throats, but none of these companies take into account people that have crappy HSI speed...
                                And don't forget data caps from all internet providers.

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