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    #46
    Re: Apple TV App Please!

    Don't forget about the Amazon Fire TV.

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      #47
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      Originally posted by echopulse View Post
      That 15% is only for subscription services such as HBONow and Netflix. It's unconfirmed if that would apply for Transactional VOD.
      The 30% for transactional is what we're talking about...

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        #48
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        Apple TV 4 is amazing. Hopefully Vudu & Apple cut a deal one day. Would make my streaming solution complete.

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          #49
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          Originally posted by Kappa123 View Post
          That's exactly what Apple hopes you do. They want to charge 30% from each transaction made on their platform. That is a bit steep. That's probably what's preventing from a full featured Vudu app from appearing on iOS. I don't blame Vudu for this.
          I don't have a problem going to the browser to buy Kindle books on an iPhone and I'm sure most people wouldn't mind doing the same for Vudu.

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            #50
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            Originally posted by Jake View Post
            True Airplay streaming with HD for iOS & ATV are in the works for 2016. I imagine a full Apple TV app will happen eventually but it's not as much of a priority given that Apple basically prevents 3rd parties from selling movies in their apps.
            Hi Jake. Can you confirm that this means that the implementation will hand-off the stream from the iOS device to the Apple TV, such that no transcoding will be happening on the iOS device itself? That's what I consider to be *true* Airplay support. If so, that's great news.

            My TiVo is my preferred device for watching Vudu movies (and everything else), but there are a lot of people who are concerned about the future of TiVo, so I'm trying to gauge what my Vudu-playing options will be. I'm not excited about the Roku, and would like to see Apple TV and Fire TV support. Airplaying (so long as it hands off the stream) would probably be acceptable to me.

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              #51
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              Originally posted by CT-Scott View Post
              Hi Jake. Can you confirm that this means that the implementation will hand-off the stream from the iOS device to the Apple TV, such that no transcoding will be happening on the iOS device itself? That's what I consider to be *true* Airplay support. If so, that's great news.
              Yep, the info for streaming is sent to the ATV which does all the work at that point - that's the difference between AirPlay Streaming and AirPlay Mirroring.

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                #52
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                Originally posted by Jake View Post
                Yep, the info for streaming is sent to the ATV which does all the work at that point - that's the difference between AirPlay Streaming and AirPlay Mirroring.
                Right. A lot of people don't understand that the two types of AirPlay (AirPlay vs AirPlay Mirroring) work very differently under the hood, so I wanted to get clarification on that. That's great to hear.

                Is it reasonable to expect that the PQ/bitrate will be high? I realize I won't get the 24Hz support that my TiVo can give me, but I'm at least hoping that the PQ should be comparable to what an iTunes 1080p movie provides on the Apple TV.

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                  #53
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                  Originally posted by Jake View Post
                  Yep, the info for streaming is sent to the ATV which does all the work at that point - that's the difference between AirPlay Streaming and AirPlay Mirroring.
                  While this would be a great enhancement for the iOS VUDU app. It is still not as good as having a native tvOS app for Apple TV that has the same functionality as the current iOS app has. I do not think users care too much about in app purchases vs. getting access to their VUDU and UV libraries on the Apple TV in a native way.

                  From my understanding it should not be a lot of work to port the app to tvOS, can you comment on why this is not a current priority ?

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                    #54
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                    Hey Jake, any news/ETA for the AirPlay support you mentioned that was coming in 2016?

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                      #55
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                      Originally posted by Jake View Post
                      Yep, the info for streaming is sent to the ATV which does all the work at that point - that's the difference between AirPlay Streaming and AirPlay Mirroring.
                      Hey Jake any updates here? I have 200+ movies in my library and my home's very Apple-centric with ATV4's on every TV and Fire TV's as the backup. So as it stands now I can only watch Vudu on the downstairs TV where we have an Xbox One S and PS4 hooked up. =/

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                        #56
                        Re: Apple TV App Please!

                        Originally posted by skurtzke View Post
                        Hey Jake any updates here? I have 200+ movies in my library and my home's very Apple-centric with ATV4's on every TV and Fire TV's as the backup. So as it stands now I can only watch Vudu on the downstairs TV where we have an Xbox One S and PS4 hooked up. =/
                        I'm on the same boat too. I have close to 600 movies on the UV platform and 300 on itunes.

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                          #57
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                          I saw the new Vudu 5.0 App has Airplay...has anyone tried it yet on Apple TV 4?

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                            #58
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                            Originally posted by Cdfuller View Post
                            I saw the new Vudu 5.0 App has Airplay...has anyone tried it yet on Apple TV 4?
                            It works fine for the movies that do work with it. A lot of older films (Wayne's World, Tommy Boy, Face/Off, Nuty Professor, Jerry Maguire to name a few from my collection) don't work because of licensing issues according to the pop-up. Basically if you own the HDX version of the movie and you only get SD rights in the app, it won't AirPlay.

                            Otherwise the ones that do play work pretty well

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                              #59
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                              I just tried it on my ATV2 (720p) and ATV3. I got error messages when trying to AirPlay to the ATV2, but it's possible that there's some other issue there.

                              For the ATV3 (1080p), it worked well. A few observations:
                              1) I tried a Sony movie and a Disney movie and both worked fine. I was anticipating the Disney movies being excluded from compatibility, so this was nice. Someone in a thread in the General forum stated that not all movies worked, so I'm curious about that. Jake, any insight on that?
                              2) That same person in the other thread stated that movies looked noticeably softer (compared to what, I'm not certain). In my case, my 1080p ATV3 is hooked up to a 720p TV, so I'm not pushing the resolution limits, but at 720p, it looked very sharp to me. Note that I did not do a head-to-head comparison of the same movie with VUDU on my TiVo.
                              3) I was curious how it would work with the ATV buffer. When you watch an iTunes movie, hit pause, wait a few minutes, and hit play again, you can see that a good chunk of the "look ahead" buffer is populated. iTunes movies are streamed at their full bitrate and populate the buffer. If you have a poor internet connection (or a temporary slowdown in your internet speed), the ATV essentially downloads the full movie (at the full bitrate they offer) to that buffer, so you don't suffer any quality downgrading or pauses in the movie. It looks like VUDU AirPlaying keeps things playing in real-time, so if I pause the movie, wait a few minutes, and hit play again, I don't see any of the buffer getting utilized. As such, I suspect that if you don't have great internet speeds you will either suffer pauses and/or the picture quality might get auto-downgraded. Again, I'd be curious if Jake has any insight on this.

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                                #60
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                                Originally posted by CT-Scott View Post
                                I just tried it on my ATV2 (720p) and ATV3. I got error messages when trying to AirPlay to the ATV2, but it's possible that there's some other issue there.

                                For the ATV3 (1080p), it worked well. A few observations:
                                1) I tried a Sony movie and a Disney movie and both worked fine. I was anticipating the Disney movies being excluded from compatibility, so this was nice. Someone in a thread in the General forum stated that not all movies worked, so I'm curious about that. Jake, any insight on that?
                                2) That same person in the other thread stated that movies looked noticeably softer (compared to what, I'm not certain). In my case, my 1080p ATV3 is hooked up to a 720p TV, so I'm not pushing the resolution limits, but at 720p, it looked very sharp to me. Note that I did not do a head-to-head comparison of the same movie with VUDU on my TiVo.
                                3) I was curious how it would work with the ATV buffer. When you watch an iTunes movie, hit pause, wait a few minutes, and hit play again, you can see that a good chunk of the "look ahead" buffer is populated. iTunes movies are streamed at their full bitrate and populate the buffer. If you have a poor internet connection (or a temporary slowdown in your internet speed), the ATV essentially downloads the full movie (at the full bitrate they offer) to that buffer, so you don't suffer any quality downgrading or pauses in the movie. It looks like VUDU AirPlaying keeps things playing in real-time, so if I pause the movie, wait a few minutes, and hit play again, I don't see any of the buffer getting utilized. As such, I suspect that if you don't have great internet speeds you will either suffer pauses and/or the picture quality might get auto-downgraded. Again, I'd be curious if Jake has any insight on this.
                                ATV2 is not supported as it doesn't have the hardware support for the encoding VUDU uses.

                                To launch the feature as quickly as possible, the "top" titles (as determined by streaming popularity) were chosen to support initially, along with all new TV and movie releases going forward. We will be working to backfill the catalog over time.

                                The video encoding is exactly the same as with all VUDU HDX titles, so any difference seen would be due to hardware/bandwidth limitations or imagined I guess there could be some differences with the adaptive streaming (which video bitrate streamed) vs other VUDU apps since this uses Apple's HLS player...

                                And as far as ATV streaming behavior - again, it's entirely up to Apple's player - ATV uses Airplay so there is actually no VUDU code running on the ATV...

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