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    Basic Wireless Setup

    Hello Vuduers. I am ordering a Vudu box and want to make sure that I have my wireless set up and ready to go when it arrives (or shortly thereafter).

    Currently I have an older Belkin B/G wireless router but am looking for an excuse to upgrade to N-Wireless so plan to do that. The current top contender is the DLink DIR-655.

    A few questions:

    1. If I upgrade to Draft-N Wireless (my laptop is compatible) are there any wireless adaptors that work on Draft-N? If so, can anyone point me to one at a good price?

    2. Is having an N-adaptor (if one exists) useful? In other words, will my Vudu experience improve if I have an N-Wireless adaptor?

    3. Other than the adaptor referenced above, is there any other kind of device that I can use with my Vudu (including a second wireless router) which will get Vudu on my wi-fi @ home?

    I would like the above setup to be reasonably secure so compatibility with a good secure format (i.e. WPA) is a must.

    Currently, reception in my HT room is "low" for my wireless, which is what's inspiring the upgrade (I have read comments which suggest that even the B/G Wireless range of networks is improved with newer routers, including N-compatible routers).

    I want Vudu to work flawlessly and so want to "buy smart."

    Any suggestions (including specific brands/products) are greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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    Re: Basic Wireless Setup

    No right now it is a waste of money.. The only benefit you might get is if your router is more powerful and your receiving end is better. As for speed my guess is a B network of 11mbps is more bandwidth than your internet connection. So if you have a 2mbps internet connection it wont matter if your router can only push 11mbps or 54mbps or 100mbps since you will never be able to push more than your internet connections 2mbps. But if you send files over your network then a faster network will help other than that nope..

    Check out my post about the wi-fi bridge. The router I have listed is very good and is very quick. (you can use it as just a normal router with DDWRT I have 2 of them working as that and they work great)


    As for range.. I have used an N router for a while and it just died.. It gives no better range indoors than my b/g routers... B will give the longest range of all standards, G reduces range and increases speed, N is supposed to give the best of B and G but so far I see no benefit in my testing. I still think the best bet is a WRT54GL running 3rd party firmware. Basically inside you have walls and other junk which is the limiting factor on range, outside sure an N router will go longer than an older b/g but it wont go as far as my $50 WRT54G running 3rd party firmware since I can boost the power from stock 24mw to an ideal 84mw up to 250mw (unstable since unit gets hot, 84 is the magic number)

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      #3
      Re: Basic Wireless Setup

      Another option that you might want to consider is a powerline adapter. They work really well and usually have less issues than setting up wireless (especially if you already have reception problems in your living room).

      But there is a chance that a power line adapter won't work at all for you (we have seen that once or twice when we tested them). So make sure that you buy it at a place where you can return it if it doesn't work...

      Hagen.

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        #4
        Re: Basic Wireless Setup

        I have purchased a Linksys GL router, and switched to Tomato firmware.

        Are there online Wiki or other instructions about the 'ideal' settings for creating a bridge?

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          #5
          Re: Basic Wireless Setup

          Originally posted by Girardian View Post
          I have purchased a Linksys GL router, and switched to Tomato firmware.

          Are there online Wiki or other instructions about the 'ideal' settings for creating a bridge?
          Using Tomato to create a wireless bridge is probably the easiest thing to do. I run 3 in my home in that configuration.

          First you need to make sure your security is anything but WPA2. I suggest WPA/AES. Do a site survey on the router you want to run in bridge mode. Find the info for your root router. (Channel, SSID). You will also need your passphrase or key.

          Now you go into the router you want to make into the client bridge. Under Basic/Network go to the wireless section and select "Wireless Bridge" Select the channel and enter your SSID and the security information. Make sure you save and withing a few second the router will be a bridge in your network. Tomato automatically turns on and off the other options as needed. Unlike DD-WRT where you have to manually turn off these services.

          One caution. Bridge will only support 1 device even though the router has 4 ports. This is due to 802.11 limitations in bridge mode.

          If you want to support more that one device the other option is to setup "Wireless Client" but this requires a more extensive configuration of the router.

          Send me a private message if you need more info.

          -Ron

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            Re: Basic Wireless Setup

            For the benefit of others reviewing this thread in the future, I'd like to keep this alive as a public resource. If it gets too technical, I'll take it to PM.

            I have performed the aforementioned steps, converting the router to a wireless bridge. When I connect the router to the Vudu box, I have connected the ethernet cable to each of the four ports, as well as the "internet" port, all without success -- repeatedly setup is stuck on Step 3 of 4 of the Vudu box set up.

            Tests for "Connection within the home" fail. This prevents the Internet Connection test or the Connection to Vudu test from being performed.

            When I elect the "Configure Manually" option, I am now uncertain what the new IP address is (after conversion to the router as a bridge), and am not certain why the tests fail.

            Any suggestions?

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              Re: Basic Wireless Setup

              Originally posted by Girardian View Post
              For the benefit of others reviewing this thread in the future, I'd like to keep this alive as a public resource. If it gets too technical, I'll take it to PM.

              I have performed the aforementioned steps, converting the router to a wireless bridge. When I connect the router to the Vudu box, I have connected the ethernet cable to each of the four ports, as well as the "internet" port, all without success -- repeatedly setup is stuck on Step 3 of 4 of the Vudu box set up.

              Tests for "Connection within the home" fail. This prevents the Internet Connection test or the Connection to Vudu test from being performed.

              When I elect the "Configure Manually" option, I am now uncertain what the new IP address is (after conversion to the router as a bridge), and am not certain why the tests fail.

              Any suggestions?
              Can you better describe your home network. I am assuming that you have one router connected to the internet and the one you just set up as a wireless bridge.

              Internet -- > Router --> Wireless -----> Wireless Bridge --> Port 1 --> VUDU
              -----------------------> Port One
              -----------------------> Port Two
              -----------------------> Port Three
              -----------------------> Port Four

              Also when you go into your bridged router did you notice if the bridge was connected? I am attaching a snapshot of a configured bridge so you can see what to look for. If you go into status/device list you will see this info.

              Once you have confirmed that the bridge is connected attach a PC to one of the ports and see if you can connect to the internet. If the PC cannot connect then there is something else going on.

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                #8
                Re: Basic Wireless Setup

                Originally posted by RonV View Post
                ...Now you go into the router you want to make into the client bridge. Under Basic/Network go to the wireless section and select "Wireless Bridge" Select the channel and enter your SSID and the security information. Make sure you save and withing a few second the router will be a bridge in your network. Tomato automatically turns on and off the other options as needed. Unlike DD-WRT where you have to manually turn off these services.
                I did this. Previously, I was able to access the router and the Tomato admin tool under the router's default address -- 192.168.1.1 (default for Linksys routers).

                As soon as I elected to set up the device as a "wireless bridge" and pressed 'save' I was no longer able to access the router.

                I am guessing that because I was accessing the router via the admin tool with the default address for the device as a wireless router, that as soon as I set it up as a bridge this IP address was changed.

                I have tried many IP addresses (and searched online for a default) without success. I simply cannot get back into the Tomato admin tool.

                FWIW: I am using (temporarily) a Belkin wireless router in conjunction with the Linksys. The Belkin router (being replaced by another Linksys Wireless G) is a Wireless -B router.

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                  #9
                  Re: Basic Wireless Setup

                  I sent you two PM's this morning...

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                    #10
                    Re: Basic Wireless Setup

                    I am now up and running. I will post a follow up thread on how I got my basic wireless set up running and a few tips and tricks.

                    Kudos to RonV as well as the toll free Vudu support team who took me through the last (frustrating) mile.

                    To be clear, the challenge here was not in setting up Vudu, but in getting the router converted with third party firmware to a wireless bridge. Once this was done, the box worked out perfectly!

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                      #11
                      Re: Basic Wireless Setup

                      Glad to hear you got it working. Wireless is not ubiquitous yet. That is why we run into all these type of issues.

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