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    #16
    Re: Video Quality Observation/Question

    guys, it is my opinion that the movies that are now being shot with HD cameras (300) will always look better than those that are not shot in HD. even though they are all being upconverted via Vudu. That's why 300 looks so good, and by the way an even better picture will be the ones that have a lot of CGI (300) in them. Did you know that the majority of 300 was shot in front of a blue or green screen and most of the background is CGI?

    I Recently did a comparison between 300 on my HD-DVD player @ 1080p
    and 300 on the Vudu connected through HDMI upscaled to 1080i

    I must admit that even though the HD-DVD version looked better.
    I was really impressed with what the Vudu is doing with upscaling!!

    and this is watching them on a 72" Toshiba DLP

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      #17
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      I seem to remember a post in here (I think) that mentioned older movies and newer movies are shot using film, whereas movies in the 80's/90's were shot to video tape. Those tape movies can never get the quality of a film version when upconverting, etc.. If this was correct, any movies you might watch from that time frame will never have the quality of say a 300...no matter what you do to it

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        #18
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        I spoke with the people at Vudu and they told me they use a MPEG 4 as opposed to MPEG 2 and a higher bit rate so the picture should be equal to a DVD. I was wondering if it could be my TV. I have a rear projection television with a native resolution of 1080i. I also have all my HDMI cables going to a receiver instead of directly to the tv.

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          #19
          Re: Video Quality Observation/Question

          Originally posted by metallus2000 View Post
          I seem to remember a post in here (I think) that mentioned older movies and newer movies are shot using film, whereas movies in the 80's/90's were shot to video tape. Those tape movies can never get the quality of a film version when upconverting, etc.. If this was correct, any movies you might watch from that time frame will never have the quality of say a 300...no matter what you do to it
          You are mostly correct. Some of the lower budget movies in the 80's/90's used tape instead of film to save on their budge. The bigger budget movies continued to use film. Now the question is how did the studio maintain the film. Was it recently restored? That can also make a big difference in quality.

          I remember when Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind came out on DVD. The quality was abysmal. They used some really bad source and it was shot on film.

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            #20
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            Originally posted by mag12203 View Post
            I spoke with the people at Vudu and they told me they use a MPEG 4 as opposed to MPEG 2 and a higher bit rate so the picture should be equal to a DVD. I was wondering if it could be my TV. I have a rear projection television with a native resolution of 1080i. I also have all my HDMI cables going to a receiver instead of directly to the tv.
            Correct. In fact better than MPEG-4, it uses H.264 which is a higher quality subset of MPEG-4. More efficient compression. The pic should be pretty close to DVD.

            Are you sure your native resolution is 1080i and not 720p? Most HD sets out there prior to the 1080p sets are really 720p native. Try setting the Vudu to 720p and see what you get...

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              #21
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              I have been seeing quite a bit of artifacting on things like Thin Red Line and some others. I would put that quality at less than DVD, not really sure why it would be.?

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                #22
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                I rented Bourne Idenity this weekend and some of the background colors were faded especially the browns and the skin colors did not look natural. I compared the vudu movie to a dvd version and the color or the vudu was softer then what I am used to. I still don't why.

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                  #23
                  Re: Video Quality Observation/Question

                  Originally posted by mag12203 View Post
                  I rented Bourne Idenity this weekend and some of the background colors were faded especially the browns and the skin colors did not look natural. I compared the vudu movie to a dvd version and the color or the vudu was softer then what I am used to. I still don't why.

                  How is the Vudu connected to the TV? How is the DVD player connected to the TV? Please be as detailed as possible. You may have posted this before, if so point me to the posting.

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                    #24
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                    my vudu is connected via HDMI, to a 58" panasonic professional plasma.
                    ISF calibration for HDMI, but not necessarilly for the vudu.
                    I am using the same HDMI calibration I did for a Sony BD-s1 Blu-ray player.

                    Just switched the cable over. I SHOULD do another calibri for the VUDU, but haven't yet.

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                      #25
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                      Hey guys -

                      Thanks for the reports. Give us as much detail about this as possible. We can then take all of this with good detail and go back to Vudu and request improvements in their compression algorithms.

                      I've noticed some blocking and banding in dark scenes myself. However, I haven't watched a DVD for a long time now and I can't say that I would or would not see the same thing. I should see if Vudu has any of the films I have on DVD and then compare them at the same spot.

                      Before we go back and hammer on Vudu we want to make sure that it's not a user setup issue or cockpit error!

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                        #26
                        Re: Video Quality Observation/Question

                        I have posted this issue before. I have all my equipment (dvd player, Vudu, DVR) hooked up via HDMI to an Onyko receiver (SR646) and output HDMI to a Toshiba rear project tv HDMI.

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                          #27
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                          Originally posted by NA9D View Post
                          I've noticed some blocking and banding in dark scenes myself. However, I haven't watched a DVD for a long time now and I can't say that I would or would not see the same thing.
                          I can say that I have never seen that on any DVD. The compression for DVD seems to lose detail more uniformly, thus making the overall picture have less detail. That's my take on it.

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