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    Edge of Tomorrow - another reason why UV prices need to come down

    Amazon :
    Live Die Repeat: Edge of Tomorrow (Blu-ray + DVD + Digital HD UltraViolet Combo Pack)
    $22.99


    Vudu.com or any other UltraViolet retailer :
    $19.99 HD

    So for the $3 more I pick up a physical BR, a physical DVD, AND still have the UV copy...
    The only thing I won't have is the UV special features, but they will be on the BR.

    Even from a pure $$$ standpoint, people will make money by selling the dvd and BR separately (not saying it is legal, just saying they will) if all they want is the UV copy


    Pricing structure needs to change.



    Another example..

    movies like

    A Christmas Story ... $17.99 HD on Vudu
    A Christmas Story: 30th Anniversary 2 Disc Blu-ray on Amazon for $19.99 PLUS has special features

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    Re: Edge of Tomorrow - another reason why UV prices need to come down

    That is why I only buy Vudu movies when they're on sale and also only the older movies because the BDs don't come with UV.

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      #3
      Re: Edge of Tomorrow - another reason why UV prices need to come down

      XMen DOFP and Dawn of Planet of the Apes are both $14.99, which is about what I feel a UV title is worth. I usually wait for the blu-Ray to go on sale for around $11.99 then buy it for the UV code. If UV wants to get to the point where they don't have to press and ship discs they need to help us out a little bit...

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        #4
        Re: Edge of Tomorrow - another reason why UV prices need to come down

        The folks that sell DVD's still have a lot of clout with the studios. They don't want digital to be cheaper. At some point, the sales of DVD's will no longer give them much leverage, but it will be a few years yet.

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          #5
          Re: Edge of Tomorrow - another reason why UV prices need to come down

          What about timing? Your physical disks cannot be delivered until 10/7, but HDX is available earlier. Not sure when exactly it was available on VUDU, but we were able to watch Edge of Tomorrow this past weekend. Was it worth the premium? In this case probably a few bux so YES...and I didn't have to go anywhere...

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            #6
            Re: Edge of Tomorrow - another reason why UV prices need to come down

            I am on the other side of the coin.

            I do not buy physical. It only adds needless clutter. It never gets used.

            The two exceptions are the $7.88 blu-bin at Wal-Mart, or $1 movies at Pawn Shops which I convert to a UV title and then store the media in cardboard boxes in my garage where they slowly deteriorate.

            I do not ever find a value add for a physical copy. On the contrary, it is a burden to provide storage while I stream from a few clicks of my remote on any TV in my home, mobile on my iPad, mobile on my iPhone, UV Library Sharing (of which I have five households linked)...

            Digital media has very real value adds over physical. If anything, it should cost more, but due to the efficiency of eliminating the costs associated with physical media distribution, it ends up costing less.

            More features at a lower cost. win-win.

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              Re: Edge of Tomorrow - another reason why UV prices need to come down

              when I have a plastic disc, it is always one scratch away from being useless. Not sure if you have a dog, but a DVD/BRD left in a family room by a child is bound to be stepped on by the family dog. There are also no ways to have the features inherent in streaming media when it is bound to a plastic disc. The optical disc format limits the features for in-home playback, not to mention the lack of mobility features.

              Awhile ago, MP3 toasted the corner record store's business model. Loss of quality aside, prices did not slip from the physical counterpart. Same thing here.

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                Re: Edge of Tomorrow - another reason why UV prices need to come down

                Originally posted by Walter-S_North_Carolina View Post
                when I have a plastic disc, it is always one scratch away from being useless. Not sure if you have a dog, but a DVD/BRD left in a family room by a child is bound to be stepped on by the family dog. There are also no ways to have the features inherent in streaming media when it is bound to a plastic disc. The optical disc format limits the features for in-home playback, not to mention the lack of mobility features.

                Awhile ago, MP3 toasted the corner record store's business model. Loss of quality aside, prices did not slip from the physical counterpart. Same thing here.
                I have never had a disc (be it CD, DVD, or Blu-Ray) scratch. If you put the disc back in it's case after viewing, there should be no problem.

                And the original poster is correct. The pricing model makes no sense. No physical Media should always equal 'lower price' because there are no production costs involved.

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                  Re: Edge of Tomorrow - another reason why UV prices need to come down

                  I can not remember the last time I did so. To me, putting a plastic disc into a set-top box player is an antiquated method for in-home playback of MPAA content.

                  Anyway, using the CD/MP3 history as a guide, there is no delta in price for digital media. Just more features.

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                    Re: Edge of Tomorrow - another reason why UV prices need to come down

                    ...the ONE reason I usually like to have a physical DVD is that invariably the kids will want to watch something in the car. Our vehicles don't yet have streaming or file capabilities. So for me there is something to be said for the value of a disc.

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                      Re: Edge of Tomorrow - another reason why UV prices need to come down

                      Originally posted by Kevlar68 View Post
                      ...the ONE reason I usually like to have a physical DVD is that invariably the kids will want to watch something in the car. Our vehicles don't yet have streaming or file capabilities. So for me there is something to be said for the value of a disc.
                      I know what you mean. I too have a Mini-van with an entertainment console that takes DVDs.

                      It has not been used in a very long time. Each child has a tablet which they entertain themselves with. As a result, I found it was not being used and now I do not even know if it still works.

                      That is just us though. I do know that 2015 models in show rooms almost all tout a method to bluetooth a hand held into the audio system and most no longer have CD trays. Perhaps too soon there will be a method to watch video from a portable source. I suspect that is not far off.

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                        Re: Edge of Tomorrow - another reason why UV prices need to come down

                        I think we've somehow managed to change the original topic of this thread but here is my take. I'm always (for the most part) going to buy the disk because it has the best audio and video possible as far as bit rates, etc. When streaming matches the bitrates of both the audio and video and also is the same or lower price, I will change over to streaming only.

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                          Re: Edge of Tomorrow - another reason why UV prices need to come down

                          I feel that digital prices should be much lower than disc prices. When I can get a blu ray, DVD, and digital copy for $19.99, there is no way I would pay that or even $14.99 for the digital only. It makes zero sense. Using the blu ray, dvd, and digital purchase of $19.99, the digital should really only cost about $5, or $6.67 if you consider them all equal. I think $9.99 is a good price for new release digital, and would push quite a few people over the fence.

                          I do like digital and I love Vudu, but I am also economically intelligent. I don't pay more or the same to get less. If a 12oz jar of peanut butter is $2.49, and the 24oz jar is $2.49 of the same brand, 100% of the time I checkout holding the 24oz jar.

                          I am going to go out on a limb here....get ready....closed. :-)

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                            Re: Edge of Tomorrow - another reason why UV prices need to come down

                            true analogy about the peanut butter jars.

                            However, if one peanut butter jar is in the back of a grocery store twenty minutes from your home and it is the larger jar and the smaller jar for the same price is in the convenience store that you can walk to who always has no waiting at the register, there is a value add to the convenience you are negating.

                            Some coupon shoppers invest much of their time and go out of their way to save from a coupon. They fail to account for the value of their time and the effort it takes to travel out of their way to obtain the value.

                            With digital, the convenience equation is to the extreme. This is why Amazon sells as much as they do even when the price is the same or even more. Their shoppers are doing so from the comfort of their homes.



                            For lunatics like me, I take it even further. I just got back from a pawn store run where I added eight to my library. I did so from first buying the media in a pawn shop and then coming back, printing an in-store sheet, and then running them over to my local Wal-Mart. For me it is work I find worthwhile. First, I am an admitted enthusiast of the technology. Second, there is value in having my library under one access method, so the extra work is worth it in the long run.

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                              Re: Edge of Tomorrow - another reason why UV prices need to come down

                              Originally posted by Walter-S_North_Carolina View Post
                              true analogy about the peanut butter jars.

                              However, if one peanut butter jar is in the back of a grocery store twenty minutes from your home and it is the larger jar and the smaller jar for the same price is in the convenience store that you can walk to who always has no waiting at the register, there is a value add to the convenience you are negating.

                              Some coupon shoppers invest much of their time and go out of their way to save from a coupon. They fail to account for the value of their time and the effort it takes to travel out of their way to obtain the value.

                              With digital, the convenience equation is to the extreme. This is why Amazon sells as much as they do even when the price is the same or even more. Their shoppers are doing so from the comfort of their homes.



                              For lunatics like me, I take it even further. I just got back from a pawn store run where I added eight to my library. I did so from first buying the media in a pawn shop and then coming back, printing an in-store sheet, and then running them over to my local Wal-Mart. For me it is work I find worthwhile. First, I am an admitted enthusiast of the technology. Second, there is value in having my library under one access method, so the extra work is worth it in the long run.
                              I also clip coupons, and like your pawn shop run, I find the extra work is worth it in the long run. When I can save $30 in 30 minutes of clipping, that is $60 an hour. Far more than I make at my day job. I am not an extreme couponer, (is that a word?) and have been clipping for as long as I can remember. I think people who do though, find happines as that is their hobby, and I am sure find it worthwile. Everyone has a differnent opinion of what is worthwile and convienent. The value of a $1, isn't the same to everyone either.

                              I also skip tolls. Ten minutes of my time isn't worth the extra $5.

                              Also...as you stated, is pretty convient to just click on Amazon to buy the combo pack of a movie, just as it is to click purchase on Vudu.

                              I shop around though. I am the person my friends and family go to before they buy something. I am not cheap, just economical.

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