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    #121
    Re: The "Incorrect Aspect Ratio" Thread

    Add Sword in the Stone. OAR 1.75:1 showing 1.33:1.
    This sucks cause it's one of the first Disney movies available thru Digital Copy and it's screwed up.

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      #122
      Re: The "Incorrect Aspect Ratio" Thread

      Originally posted by Gnatevil View Post
      Add Sword in the Stone. OAR 1.75:1 showing 1.33:1.
      This sucks cause it's one of the first Disney movies available thru Digital Copy and it's screwed up.
      Sorry this took so long, but I have it added to the list now.

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        #123
        Re: The "Incorrect Aspect Ratio" Thread

        I was watching a 2 minute preview of "Bad Day At Black Rock" and noticed that it went from 2:35.1 to 1:78.1 before the 2 minutes was up. This another to add to your list.

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          #124
          Re: The "Incorrect Aspect Ratio" Thread

          Actually, Sword in the Stone is correct, it was animated in the Academy Ratio of 1.33:1.

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            #125
            Re: The "Incorrect Aspect Ratio" Thread

            Originally posted by prkprkprk View Post
            Mysterious Island (OAR: 1.85:1, Vudu: 1.33:1)
            Please don NOT "update" Mysterious Island! Vudu is currently the only place you can get a 1080p transfer of the uncropped, full frame scan.

            While IMDb states the aspect ratio as 1.85:1, like all open matte flicks of the '50s and '60s, it was shot at Academy standard 1.37:1. While strictly intended to be projected at 1:85:1 in the US, few theaters ever actually cropped these films that wide (most coming closer to the UK 1.66:1.)

            Furthermore, Harryhausen was not a widescreen fan, and all of the matte painting shots and most of the animation effects shots in this film are obviously composed to the full frame he was shooting, not the intended theatrical ratio. The current US DVD release demonstrates how miserably this picture fares at 1.85:1, with large swaths of important stuff being cut off the top and bottom of the screen. Even the limited-release bluray at a more modest 1.67:1 compromise doesn't look quite right in a bunch of scenes.

            While many/most open matte films of the period do fare well at their intended theatrical aspect ratios, this ain't one of them. Please leave it at the full frame 1.37:1 and allow me to choose whether or not to crop it on my TV.

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              #126
              Re: The "Incorrect Aspect Ratio" Thread

              Originally posted by echopulse View Post
              Actually, Sword in the Stone is correct, it was animated in the Academy Ratio of 1.33:1.
              It was animated in 1.33:1, but was released in theaters in 1.75:1, thus the AR presented isn't the original theatrical aspect ratio.

              Originally posted by musacfreak73 View Post
              I was watching a 2 minute preview of "Bad Day At Black Rock" and noticed that it went from 2:35.1 to 1:78.1 before the 2 minutes was up. This another to add to your list.
              Just added it. Thanks!

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                #127
                Re: The "Incorrect Aspect Ratio" Thread

                Sword in the Stone was released only a few years after the introduction of widescreen, so not all theaters had been converted yet. So either ratio could be considered correct, but I prefer to see the whole scene as intended by the animators, regardless of the way it was shown at a particular theater.

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                  #128
                  Re: The "Incorrect Aspect Ratio" Thread

                  Originally posted by echopulse View Post
                  Sword in the Stone was released only a few years after the introduction of widescreen, so not all theaters had been converted yet. So either ratio could be considered correct, but I prefer to see the whole scene as intended by the animators, regardless of the way it was shown at a particular theater.
                  The 1.75:1 version is the one that's on the BD and what's listed on IMDb. So, in this case, it will stay on the list.

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                    #129
                    Re: The "Incorrect Aspect Ratio" Thread

                    Originally posted by prkprkprk View Post
                    The 1.75:1 version is the one that's on the BD and what's listed on IMDb. So, in this case, it will stay on the list.
                    The 1.75:1 bluray of Sword in the Stone is a disaster, video-wise (see the review at blu-ray.com and note the horrible top and bottom cropping of the two large screencaps, there.)

                    While I haven't purchased the Vudu version and thus don't know if it suffers from the same over-processing of the BD transfer, I'd still rather have the choice of watching the full frame shot by the animators or cropping down to 1.78 manually on my TV.

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                      #130
                      Re: The "Incorrect Aspect Ratio" Thread

                      Do what you wish, but just as an FYI Robert Harris who is an expert film historian and restoration expert says the correct ratio is 1.37:1

                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_A._Harris

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                        #131
                        Re: Batman Begins wrong aspect ratio?

                        If Vudu ever wants to be taken seriously by film enthusiasts then it must clearly disclose, prior to purchase, whether a file has been altered from the original cinema format. There is nothing worse for the film buff than to realize he has purchased only part of a film after the fact. The Wild Bunch was my first shock. Vudu's presentation of Peckinpah's cinematographic masterpiece on Vudu is un-watchable. It surprises me that there are so few replies to this thread.

                        Since the question was raised, any decent HD TV should offer zoom for those casual viewers who insist that their screen be filled at all costs. If you primarily watch made for TV rather than made for the theater chances are that most content will have been produced for 16 x 9 format and aspect is a non-issue. But if you even occasionally watch a film at home then you will want to pay close attention to the scanning and presentations capabilities of any tv which you are considering for purchase. My low mid range LG offers the following which can be toggled from a single button on the remote 16:9 > Just Scan > Set by Program > 4:3 > Zoom > Cinema Zoom 1 > Cinema Zoom 2.

                        For the newbie that may seem a bit overwhelming but just go to any wide shot, preferably a day shot with architectural features or landscape and pause the video, for instance the scene from Dark Knight 41:10 where the city is seen in back round from within the glass walled office.

                        Scroll through the "ratio" choices. Note how much is cut off each side. Is the depth perspective or impact of the shot destroyed at the cost of watching full screen? For any decent director the answer will be an emphatic yes.

                        Regardless of your individual preference at the moment all the visual detail and original composition should be available for viewing otherwise it's more like having bought a thumbnail rather than the original.

                        note: You should have already set up Vudu from the main app scene to size the test image which is quite simple.

                        Results are going to vary from film to film and with the quality of the digital transfer along with how faithful the set is.
                        Not a recommendation by any means but LG 47CM565 47-Inch Cinema 3D 1080p 60Hz LCD HDTV (2012 Model) was purchased as a closeout for $300. You need not over-spend to get multiple aspect display capability these days.

                        If you've purchased a digital movie and find that you were sold only part of the goods ( i.e. cropped ) SPEAK UP by opening a Support case. Vudu may only be able to offer what it gets from the studio but there is no excuse for failure to disclose. Consumers demanded and got this from disc and there is no reason that they should not be informed of altered format with digital.

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                          #132
                          Re: Batman Begins wrong aspect ratio?

                          Originally posted by creekside View Post
                          If Vudu ever wants to be taken seriously by film enthusiasts then it must clearly disclose, prior to purchase, whether a file has been altered from the original cinema format. There is nothing worse for the film buff than to realize he has purchased only part of a film after the fact. The Wild Bunch was my first shock. Vudu's presentation of Peckinpah's cinematographic masterpiece on Vudu is un-watchable. It surprises me that there are so few replies to this thread.
                          I agree 100%

                          I just found this thread after purchasing a lot of movies and found that quite a few of my purchases have been cropped.

                          When I purchase the HDX version of the movie, it should be what VUDU is advertising and be the best that there is to offer and to be offering cropped versions of movies is unacceptable.

                          When there is a blu-ray version of most movies that is available in the correct aspect ratio, I do not see how VUDU is getting an improper version to put on the sight for us to purchase.

                          If I could get my money back for the movies that I've purchased that are in the correct ratio, exchange for other movies that are correct, or just get more updates from VUDU regarding getting the correct versions and those being added to my collection, I'd be happy.

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                            #133
                            Re: The "Incorrect Aspect Ratio" Thread

                            John Tucker Must Die (OAR 1.85:1, Vudu HDX 1.33:1)

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                              #134
                              Re: The "Incorrect Aspect Ratio" Thread

                              Originally posted by Smoke View Post
                              John Tucker Must Die (OAR 1.85:1, Vudu HDX 1.33:1)
                              Added.

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                                #135
                                Re: The "Incorrect Aspect Ratio" Thread

                                Woodstock: 3 Days of Peace and Music is windowboxed with black bars on all 4 sides.

                                The trailer is anamorphic widescreen.

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