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  • RBBrittain
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    Re: Disney movies to vudu

    Originally posted by LuzRinggold View Post
    I bought Frozen from Amazon.com (who I buy most of mine from) and redeemed it on Vudu.
    That's not the issue with Frozen. Ordinary copies of Frozen (like yours) came with the usual DMR/DC+ code, which can be redeemed thru DC+ with various providers (including Vudu, which will also redeem the code directly) and with DMR for a second digital copy thru DMA/iTunes. However, if you purchased the preorder card of Frozen in Walmart (as I did), the only DC you got of Frozen was from Vudu; the physical copy you got in the mail, with a different UPC, redeemed only with DMR and not with DMA/iTunes. (OTOH, we got Frozen as soon as it was available for purchase on Vudu, some three weeks before the physical copies were released.)

    Edit: The only people who can't redeem Frozen with Vudu are those who redeemed it at DC+ with someone other than Vudu -- Amazon, Google Play, or the stand-alone iTunes icon without DMA/DMR redemption (next to Vudu, Amazon, etc., as opposed to the DMA banner above them). If you did not use one of those three options (i.e., you got your iTunes copy solely thru DMA/DMR and did not add an Amazon or Google Play copy), you should still be able to get Frozen at Vudu.
    Last edited by RBBrittain; 06-14-2014, 03:53 PM. Reason: Expand

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  • LuzRinggold
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    Re: Disney movies to vudu

    Originally posted by jbloggs View Post
    The normal retail version UPC and the Walmart preorder version have different UPC
    I bought Frozen from Amazon.com (who I buy most of mine from) and redeemed it on Vudu.

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  • Walter-S_North_Carolina
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    Originally posted by MGmirkin View Post
    What I REALLY want is for Disney to stop being so proprietary and just support UV. If they also want to support older Digital Copy format and iTunes, more power to them. But, right now, I really don't care about iTunes. I don't use it. It's also basically proprietary and only works on Apple hardware for the most part. That is to say, "there's NOT an app for that" [on other hardware like Blu & Roku & Smart TVs].

    I prefer industry standards and open standards. Which is largely what UV seems to be moving toward. Interoperability: good. Proprietary: bad. I won't be buying much by the way of Disney flicks until they get this through their thick skull. They already support DC & iTunes, why not add UV? It's just one more "Digital Copy" license... If they'd do that, and support D2D, I'd re-buy pretty much every last bit of their animation on Blu-ray Combo-pack in a heartbeat. 'Til then, I'm passing on 'em all. Which sucks. 'Cause I like their animation, but I vote with my $$. I buy UV-enabled stuff because it makes economic and future-proofing sense. Currently, iTunes and old-school digital copy and other proprietary nonsense doesn't to me. I have a finite pool of money, so I only purchase the things that it makes sense to purchase. Right now, Disney doesn't make sense... So, no go 'til then.

    They also seem to be sequestering a bunch of stuff from studios they've purchased over the years. Notably newer Marvel flicks (which you can only get on iTunes Digital Copy, but w/o UV license like pretty much all other modern releases). So, older Marvel titles (animation particularly) are all happy and UV compliant. Newer titles, after Disney bought them, seem to be sequestered away from UV. So, Iron Man: Rise of Technovore, I can own UV. The Iron Man and Avengers live action flicks? Not-so-much. Iron Man / Hulk: Heroes United? Seemingly not. Though strangely, Avengers Confidential seems to be? Which is confusing. And that's the point. IT's confusing to have SOME titles be UV and others be seemingly sequestered. Seems to me it should be all or nothing. =o\ And I prefer ALL.
    iTunes added an amazing number of account holders last year and is over 800,000,000. Due to this incredible success, Disney Studios feels justified in using them for their digital copy redemtion via keychest.

    However, if I am not looking to tote around a mobile copy of my movie on my iPhone (assuming I own an iPhone), but instead want the convenience of having my home entertainment library accessible via a streaming provider for play back on the ubiquitous flat screen, iTunes requires an AppleTV set-top box and their market penetration is very low.

    Ultraviolet users as a community are becoming the early adopters for the new method of digitized in-home playback. Eventually, Disney Studios will need to recognize this emerging market or will need to answer to their stock holders.

    IMHO, their first UV title will be when Maleficent is released on in-home media later this year.

    Although iTunes has a staggering number of account holders, the trend to streaming is making them passe. This is both in video and now music too. In reaction to Pandora and Spotify, they have a new iTunes Radio, but Amazon just made a big splash with Prime Music and there is also Beat too. iTunes has a very small portion of the streaming music market and they stand to soon become an antiquated platform.

    At least, that is my view.

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  • RBBrittain
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    Originally posted by Grey Ghost View Post
    I thought some people reported successfully redeeming directly on Vudu without using the Digitalcopyplus website. Disney movies come up on Vudu's redemption page without mention of the digitalcopyplus site.
    Either way will work. Strangely, if you go thru the main site menus you pick the option for redeeming UV copies; Disney titles are also listed there even though they're not UV.

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  • Grey Ghost
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    Originally posted by Averial View Post
    Hopefully everybody knows this by now, but just in case this hasn't been made clear - with the newer released movies, you still just need to go to the DigitalCopyPlus web site to redeem your code to have your movies added to your Vudu account. I found this out after I bought Frozen and it didn't show up in my Vudu account. The Disney person that I spoke too told me that if I continue to go to http://www.digitalcopyplus.com/ - that I could still add my movies to my Vudu account. So far so good as I've been able to add several Disney movies since. I first do my Disney Rewards, then I hop out to the DigitalCopyPlus site and add my movies to there too.
    I thought some people reported successfully redeeming directly on Vudu without using the Digitalcopyplus website. Disney movies come up on Vudu's redemption page without mention of the digitalcopyplus site.

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  • Averial
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    Hopefully everybody knows this by now, but just in case this hasn't been made clear - with the newer released movies, you still just need to go to the DigitalCopyPlus web site to redeem your code to have your movies added to your Vudu account. I found this out after I bought Frozen and it didn't show up in my Vudu account. The Disney person that I spoke too told me that if I continue to go to http://www.digitalcopyplus.com/ - that I could still add my movies to my Vudu account. So far so good as I've been able to add several Disney movies since. I first do my Disney Rewards, then I hop out to the DigitalCopyPlus site and add my movies to there too.

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  • MGmirkin
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    What I REALLY want is for Disney to stop being so proprietary and just support UV. If they also want to support older Digital Copy format and iTunes, more power to them. But, right now, I really don't care about iTunes. I don't use it. It's also basically proprietary and only works on Apple hardware for the most part. That is to say, "there's NOT an app for that" [on other hardware like Blu & Roku & Smart TVs].

    I prefer industry standards and open standards. Which is largely what UV seems to be moving toward. Interoperability: good. Proprietary: bad. I won't be buying much by the way of Disney flicks until they get this through their thick skull. They already support DC & iTunes, why not add UV? It's just one more "Digital Copy" license... If they'd do that, and support D2D, I'd re-buy pretty much every last bit of their animation on Blu-ray Combo-pack in a heartbeat. 'Til then, I'm passing on 'em all. Which sucks. 'Cause I like their animation, but I vote with my $$. I buy UV-enabled stuff because it makes economic and future-proofing sense. Currently, iTunes and old-school digital copy and other proprietary nonsense doesn't to me. I have a finite pool of money, so I only purchase the things that it makes sense to purchase. Right now, Disney doesn't make sense... So, no go 'til then.

    They also seem to be sequestering a bunch of stuff from studios they've purchased over the years. Notably newer Marvel flicks (which you can only get on iTunes Digital Copy, but w/o UV license like pretty much all other modern releases). So, older Marvel titles (animation particularly) are all happy and UV compliant. Newer titles, after Disney bought them, seem to be sequestered away from UV. So, Iron Man: Rise of Technovore, I can own UV. The Iron Man and Avengers live action flicks? Not-so-much. Iron Man / Hulk: Heroes United? Seemingly not. Though strangely, Avengers Confidential seems to be? Which is confusing. And that's the point. IT's confusing to have SOME titles be UV and others be seemingly sequestered. Seems to me it should be all or nothing. =o\ And I prefer ALL.
    Last edited by DanielH; 04-21-2014, 12:13 PM. Reason: Removed Language

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  • jbloggs
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    Originally posted by Speedaddict81 View Post
    Was it the Walmart pre-order? That is where the problem lies, they are sending a special 'we already added your digital cop to Vuduy' insert which will still get you DMR points, but won't add to DMA. It is my belief that the UPC for both versions are probably the same, with only the internal packaging difference (I guess I could check). This is deceptive at best, there should be no difference in what you get between preordering at Walmart or preordering at Amazon, regardless of the ability to watch early (that should simply be a bonus). I know I'm done preordering Disney movies at Walmart because I want to have them in Vudu and DMA.
    The normal retail version UPC and the Walmart preorder version have different UPC

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  • MaxH
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    No, I ordered the Blu-ray/DVD/digital copy set from DeepDiscount (for $17.98, including shipping).

    After what I've read here, I will not be pre-ordering anything if it involves getting the disc (eventually) from Walmart.

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  • Speedaddict81
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    Originally posted by MaxH View Post
    I ordered the Blu-ray, and I was able to use the same code to redeem Frozen on Vudu and DMA/iTunes.
    Was it the Walmart pre-order? That is where the problem lies, they are sending a special 'we already added your digital cop to Vuduy' insert which will still get you DMR points, but won't add to DMA. It is my belief that the UPC for both versions are probably the same, with only the internal packaging difference (I guess I could check). This is deceptive at best, there should be no difference in what you get between preordering at Walmart or preordering at Amazon, regardless of the ability to watch early (that should simply be a bonus). I know I'm done preordering Disney movies at Walmart because I want to have them in Vudu and DMA.

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  • MaxH
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    I ordered the Blu-ray, and I was able to use the same code to redeem Frozen on Vudu and DMA/iTunes.

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  • Grey Ghost
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    Originally posted by RBBrittain View Post
    I should add: If you redeemed your DC+ code only for DMR and DMA/iTunes (not for iTunes directly, i.e., pre-DMA, or for Amazon, Google Play, etc.), it should still be redeemable at Vudu thru either the DC+ or Vudu sites IF Vudu is a supported provider for that title. (From Vudu, choose the link under "Disc to Digital" for redeeming UV copies; of course Disney isn't UV, but Vudu handles them on the same page as UV.) Older disc-based DCs are limited to iTunes (directly and/or DMA) & Windows Media; they can't be imported to Vudu (unless & until they join DMA).
    According to the Partner grid, only Peter Pan Diamond edition DVD is not redeemable on Vudu.

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  • RBBrittain
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    Originally posted by Grey Ghost View Post
    If these are digital copies in Disney Movies Anywhere you need to buy an Apple TV and watch using iTunes. If you have unredeemed codes from newer movies that use Digitalcopyplus.com for redemption you can redeem the codes for a copy on Vudu.
    I should add: If you redeemed your DC+ code only for DMR and DMA/iTunes (not for iTunes directly, i.e., pre-DMA, or for Amazon, Google Play, etc.), it should still be redeemable at Vudu thru either the DC+ or Vudu sites IF Vudu is a supported provider for that title. (From Vudu, choose the link under "Disc to Digital" for redeeming UV copies; of course Disney isn't UV, but Vudu handles them on the same page as UV.) Older disc-based DCs are limited to iTunes (directly and/or DMA) & Windows Media; they can't be imported to Vudu (unless & until they join DMA).

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  • RBBrittain
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    Originally posted by Grey Ghost View Post
    Thanks for pointing that out.
    Yeah, I read the terms too when I joined, they weren't as daunting as most are, but I missed the implications for other services.

    Now the question is how long is iTunes exclusivity agreement (I presume there is one), 6 months or 12 or ?, before Vudu can join?
    Clause 4 (a):
    A little further down is Clause 4(c), which answers the license-sharing question:
    (c) Entitlement Sharing. Entitlement Sharing is the sharing of your Entitlements on your behalf between DMA and each connected Digital Distributor. In this way, all DMA-eligible movies in your DMA locker will also appear in each of your connected Digital Distributor?s lockers. Additionally, all DMA-eligible movies in your connected Digital Distributor?s lockers will appear in your DMA locker and each of your other connected Digital Distributor?s lockers. This will allow you to independently view such movies through the DMA Service and each Digital Distributor?s service. No Entitlement information or other information is shared directly between Digital Distributors. Each Digital Distributor?s terms of use will determine your viewing rules and restrictions while using their services. Please note that not all movies available in your connected Digital Distributor?s locker are eligible for sharing with DMA. Disconnecting your DMA account with any Digital Distributor account will cease all future Entitlement Sharing between DMA and the disconnected Digital Distributor. DMA-eligible movies based on Entitlements which have been shared prior to disconnecting will continue to be available in DMA and in the service of the applicable Digital Distributor until you manually delete them.
    In plain English: Once you link a provider to DMA, all DMA-eligible movies in either your DMA or provider libraries will show up in both places; they will remain even if you unlink them. That's definitely clearer than UV, especially since I know unlinking a provider from UV will delete all imported UV titles from the provider's library; I've had to do that a few times with my Nook HD (B&N's own Nook Video service will play UV titles in HD, unlike Vudu's Android app, but it has linking issues far more serious than Vudu).

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  • Grey Ghost
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    Originally posted by RBBrittain View Post
    It is speculation as to if or when Vudu may join DMA, though IMO it should eventually happen. However, if & when it does happen, all eligible movies in either your Vudu or DMA libraries should appear in both services per DMA's terms & conditions (which I read when I joined DMA).

    I just called DMA myself about Vudu preorders of Frozen not showing up in DMA; the rep said they couldn't put it in DMA due to Walmart restrictions, but it should eventually work if Vudu joins DMA. (The latter is consistent with the DMA T&C.) The problem, of course, is that those Walmart restrictions make Vudu preorders the only copies of Frozen with no DMA/iTunes access at all; for those of us with multiple kinds of devices it's either Vudu or nothing. If I had known Vudu would impose that kind of restriction I wouldn't have bought the preorder...
    Thanks for pointing that out.
    Yeah, I read the terms too when I joined, they weren't as daunting as most are, but I missed the implications for other services.

    Now the question is how long is iTunes exclusivity agreement (I presume there is one), 6 months or 12 or ?, before Vudu can join?
    Clause 4 (a):

    (a) Connecting. Currently, Apple iTunes is a "Digital Distributor" of the DMA Service. Additional Digital Distributors may become available and Digital Distributors may become unavailable at any time, with or without notice. The total number of Digital Distributors may vary at any given time. If you have an account with a Digital Distributor, you may connect your DMA account with each of your Digital Distributor accounts. Only one DMA account can be connected with one account at each connected Digital Distributor. These accounts may be individually disconnected by you at any time. However, the DMA account to which an individual Digital Distributor account is connected cannot be switched to a different DMA account more than once in any 180 day period (and vice versa). Connecting your DMA account with your Digital Distributor account(s) will enable automatic Entitlement Sharing between DMA and the Digital Distributor.
    Once Walmart started sending pre-orders out late and started sending special editions without another digital copy, I lost interest in them.

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