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    #31
    Re: News from CES

    I'm sceptical of the VHS thing. Does this mean I can bring in my Laserdiscs and a computer full of itunes movies and get those converted with D2D as well? I'm going to need a little more than a backhand reference in a magazine article to be convinced, not that it matters for you and your VHS.

    Only Walmart knows what their licensing is with the studios, but it wouldn't be the first time that journalists failed to get their facts straight.

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      #32
      Re: News from CES

      I am a WM employee, working home entertainment area at my store. If VHS is allowed, this is news to me. There is absolutely no marketing material mentioning anything beside DVD and Blu-ray as being applicable. Store training and procedures specifically mentions only DVD and Blu-ray. If the associate does a manual order, the only options in search results are DVD and Blu-ray versions of the searched title. No VHS can be found in this system. Just like when you prepare your order in advance, there is no VHS in search results. The instructions on this web site also specifically only say DVD and Blu-ray. Sorry, but how can anyone assume or expect any other format to be included with this service?

      Of course I guess I could be wrong, but I'm positive this is just a mistake by people that don't really understand the service.

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        #33
        Re: News from CES

        In this article, the same WalMart spokeswoman says nothing about VHS. Only Blu Ray and DVD. She may have been mistaken in saying that in the other article. Surely Walmart would include all acceptable formats in their signage/literature/website.
        http://www.hometheater.com/content/w...available-vudu

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          #34
          Re: News from CES

          Originally posted by jeffpn View Post
          In this article, the same WalMart spokeswoman says nothing about VHS. Only Blu Ray and DVD. She may have been mistaken in saying that in the other article. Surely Walmart would include all acceptable formats in their signage/literature/website.
          http://www.hometheater.com/content/w...available-vudu
          However, the USA Today article never directly quoted her as specifically saying that. Basically, it was the reporter stating that she said something to that effect but it could have been a simple misunderstanding.

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            #35
            Re: News from CES

            Originally posted by lostinva View Post
            I am a WM employee, working home entertainment area at my store. If VHS is allowed, this is news to me.
            I am not surprised, most WM employees around here don't even have a clue what Vudu or Disc-to-Digital is and very few seem to know how to do it!

            Sorry, I am not attacking you personally, it's just that I have had a lot of very bad experience with Walmart's disc-to-digital in the past. It took me 7 months to train the photo lab that I use here. I remember having to drive to 4 different local stores the first time I did it. I finally find someone who at least knew where "the notebook" was kept with the password and instructions.

            But you are right, they don't advertise this very well. UltraViolet's home page uses the term "movie" and the only time they specifically mention Blu-ray and DVD is when they talk about looking for the UV logo when buying "new" movies. Obviously you are not going to find new VHS tapes with the UV sticker since they don't make VHS anymore.

            Walmart's in store disc-to-digital service was added as a way to purchase additional movie watching rights, a digital license, for those old movies we already own. Most people these days don't think about anything other than DVD and Blu-ray. And many of us were guilty of putting too much emphasis on the name and not enough attention to what the $2 fee was really for.


            Do you know Sarah Spencer? She's a director in your Corporate Communcations department in Arkansas. She has confirmed that we can salvage those movies our old media (VHS and Laserdiscs) and obtain digital rights for them so we can once again enjoy movies the movie industry sold on failed or out-dated media.

            The downside is that disc-to-digital came way too late...many of us have already replaced our old VHS, Laserdisc, or Betamax tapes with DVDs or Blu-ray discs.

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              #36
              Let's give the debate about VHS a rest. RIP!

              Originally posted by madmod20061 View Post
              Boy did this go off topic I came here and though "Oh Boy, 3 pages of news from CES". Guess not.
              Me also! For anyone with desires of converting VHS, Beta, 8MM, Hi-8, Laserdisc, etc. to UV please stop posting and/or whining about it until they approve it. But don't hold your breath.

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                #37
                Re: News from CES

                Originally posted by E55KEV View Post
                I Agree! For anyone with desires of converting VHS, Beta, 8MM, Hi-8, Laserdisc, etc. to UV please stop posting and/or whining about it until they approve it. But don't hold your breath.
                We're not off topic and this has been approved. It's always been a part of D2D, we just didn't know for sure until Walmart cleared it up for us. So, no need to hold your breath...like I said before, I have already taken two VHS tapes to Walmart and I am able to watch them in the cloud.

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                  #38
                  $10 for VHS!

                  Originally posted by tfisher View Post
                  We're not off topic and this has been approved. It's always been a part of D2D, we just didn't know for sure until Walmart cleared it up for us. So, no need to hold your breath...like I said before, I have already taken two VHS tapes to Walmart and I am able to watch them in the cloud.
                  I guess you the official BETA tester for this?

                  If VHS is started I speculate the price to convert to HD might be more than $5.

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                    #39
                    UV Locker Forfeit?

                    Originally posted by tfisher View Post
                    We're not off topic and this has been approved. It's always been a part of D2D, we just didn't know for sure until Walmart cleared it up for us. So, no need to hold your breath...like I said before, I have already taken two VHS tapes to Walmart and I am able to watch them in the cloud.
                    I hope this does not happen but (suppose) you could be legally determined that you violated/abused UV rules by knowingly redeeming titles you do not own or DVD or Blu-ray and have your UV locker seized. They have that right. You already admitted to doing so.

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                      #40
                      Re: News from CES

                      Originally posted by E55KEV View Post
                      I guess you the official BETA tester for this?

                      If VHS is started I speculate the price to convert to HD might be more than $5.
                      If you mean I am the first person to purchase digital rights to a movie on something other than DVD or Blu-ray then no, probably not. I am just the first person to mention this on the forum.

                      The fee to go from SD to HD is $4 (I mean $5), but you already knew that.

                      What I don't understand is why anyone would be concerned that there are people who still have movies they purchased from the movie industry who are wanting to use UltraViolet as a means to watch their movies again. How is it that you seem to think that you have been impacted by people converting their old VHS tapes to digital? I paid the fee offered to me and I followed the rules they presented. If you don't approve of people converting their VHS tapes for some reason then I guess you can contact Walmart's corporate office and complain.

                      All I am trying to do here is get the word out to those who have movies on other types of media that they can use this service to watch those movies instead of buying the movies all over again.

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                        #41
                        Re: News from CES

                        Originally posted by tfisher View Post
                        If you mean I am the first person to purchase digital rights to a movie on something other than DVD or Blu-ray then no, probably not. I am just the first person to mention this on the forum.

                        The fee to go from SD to HD is $4, but you already knew that.
                        When did the price drop from $5 to $4 for SD to HD?

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                          #42
                          Re: News from CES

                          Originally posted by E55KEV View Post
                          When did the price drop from $5 to $4 for SD to HD?
                          Excuse me, you are correct on that point. I was thinking it was $4 but it is $5. I have never done any upgrades to HD before.

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                            #43
                            Re: News from CES

                            Originally posted by tfisher View Post
                            I paid the fee offered to me and I followed the rules they presented.
                            That's not entirely true. You did not follow the rules as there are no rules to convert a VHS tape. You spent extra time and effort convincing the Walmart employees they should do this. If part of the rules you would not have to convince them. When you go back again and there are different employees you will have convince them also. Go to a different Walmart and you will have to convince them also. Convincing employees to convert VHS is not part of any UV/Walmart/VUDU rules.

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                              #44
                              Re: News from CES

                              Originally posted by tfisher View Post
                              ...

                              I also see that there will be a spelling test later so I better learn how to spell Blu-ray (it's spelled with a capital letter) or I may fail, or at least prevent some people from understanding what the heck I mean when I say "Blue Ray".
                              It's never too late to learn how to spell unless you believe in the old adage that "you can't teach an old dog new tricks"?

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                                #45
                                Re: News from CES

                                Originally posted by E55KEV View Post
                                That's not entirely true. You did not follow the rules as there are no rules to convert a VHS tape. You spent extra time and effort convincing the Walmart employees they should do this. If part of the rules you would not have to convince them.
                                It wasn't that difficult for them to understand what I was paying for. I actually spent more time "teaching" them how to do D2D several months back. I wasn't surpised I would have to explain all this to them since communications and training for D2D has really sucked.

                                So following your logic I have broken the rules by even converting DVDs and Blu-rays since I had to basically educate them on that whole process as well?

                                The rules are the same of all media. Look for the "title" on the list of movies that are authorized for D2D. Select SD or HD format. Take the movie with you to Walmart and they will verify that you own the movie and authorize your purchase of digitial rights to that movie.

                                If you don't like it then stop your whining and take it up with Walmart. I have only done what they are allowing us to do.

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