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    #181
    Re: VUDU vs Satellite

    Just finished watching American Gangster.

    I rented the HD/Surround Sound version from Directv for $4.99.

    The picture quality was good but the audio was stereo (not DD5.1 as advertised). The picture also had major lip-sync problems. I felt like I was watching a Japanese dubbed movie. It was so bad I couldn't even finish watching it. So I complained and got a refund for it.

    So instead, I rented and watched it on VUDU for $3.99. The picture quality wasn't quite as good (because it was SD), but wasn't that bad either and very watchable. The sound was stereo also, but no lip sync problems. And best of all VUDU offered the Unrated Extended version of the movie (Directv did not).

    So I'm giving the point to VUDU on this one. Good job!!!

    I might be unbalanced, but I'm fair.

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      #182
      Re: VUDU vs Satellite

      Hey Replay-Boy,

      Check this out.

      http://www.hauppage.com/site/products/hd_pvr.html

      (wanted to post it but didn't want to create a new thread, unless there was interest).

      More discussion at RonV's favorite (well maybe 2nd) site: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...php?p=13557688

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        #183
        Re: VUDU vs Satellite

        Originally posted by RobertHodge View Post
        Just finished watching American Gangster.

        I rented the HD/Surround Sound version from Directv for $4.99.

        The picture quality was good but the audio was stereo (not DD5.1 as advertised). The picture also had major lip-sync problems. I felt like I was watching a Japanese dubbed movie. It was so bad I couldn't even finish watching it. So I complained and got a refund for it.

        So instead, I rented and watched it on VUDU for $3.99. The picture quality wasn't quite as good (because it was SD), but wasn't that bad either and very watchable. The sound was stereo also, but no lip sync problems. And best of all VUDU offered the Unrated Extended version of the movie (Directv did not).

        So I'm giving the point to VUDU on this one. Good job!!!

        I might be unbalanced, but I'm fair.
        You should be able to get a refund from DirecTV since it wasn't 5.1 as advertised. At least they used to do that when I had DirecTV years ago.

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          #184
          Re: VUDU vs Satellite

          Originally posted by RobertHodge View Post
          Hey Replay-Boy,

          Check this out.

          http://www.hauppage.com/site/products/hd_pvr.html

          (wanted to post it but didn't want to create a new thread, unless there was interest).

          More discussion at RonV's favorite (well maybe 2nd) site: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...php?p=13557688
          I am missing something here. Its supposed to be a DVR and it only has component and composite connectors? It mentions TV a few time in the link but yet there is no tuner? I guess they are hoping that you buy an external tuner that can output component at 1080i?

          I see this as another component of a Rube Goldberg machine. You need external hardware such as a PC and Tuner to realize its full potential. Wouldn't be very high on the WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) scale.

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            #185
            Re: VUDU vs Satellite

            Originally posted by aaronwt View Post
            You should be able to get a refund from DirecTV since it wasn't 5.1 as advertised. At least they used to do that when I had DirecTV years ago.
            He said he complained and got refunded...

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              #186
              Re: VUDU vs Satellite

              Originally posted by RonV View Post
              I am missing something here. Its supposed to be a DVR and it only has component and composite connectors? It mentions TV a few time in the link but yet there is no tuner? I guess they are hoping that you buy an external tuner that can output component at 1080i?

              I see this as another component of a Rube Goldberg machine. You need external hardware such as a PC and Tuner to realize its full potential. Wouldn't be very high on the WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) scale.
              Right, It's another video capture device. It uses IR blasters to change the box, doesn't have a tuner from what I can tell and it needs a computer...I'd rather get the TiVoHD...

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                #187
                Re: VUDU vs Satellite

                ANd what happens when the component outputs are restricted?
                A device that captured component out would have been welcomed by me 6 or 7 years ago(when all my HD watching was through component and VGA), but since switching everything I use to digital(DVI/HDMI) starting in 2005, I will never use component outs again.

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                  #188
                  Re: VUDU vs Satellite

                  If you like Rube Goldberg just for fun take a look at this:

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8DjQ2DXs7s

                  Also loved the incedable machine and crazy machine games. These guys really take it to the next level. I've been waiting for the competition for the last 6 months.

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                    #189
                    Re: VUDU vs Satellite

                    Thanks for the feedback, sounds like another boon-doggle to me.

                    Regards

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                      #190
                      Re: VUDU vs Satellite

                      Originally posted by RonV View Post
                      VUDU does their own encoding. H.264 is the standard that they are using. Here is the reference I use:


                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC
                      I'm almost positive that I read an article that says that Vudu outsources some of encoding duties. I thought it was this article (http://newteevee.com/2008/03/19/vudu...-options-open/), but that doesn't seem to be it. Still, NTV's article is very interesting...

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                        #191
                        Re: VUDU vs Satellite

                        Originally posted by Rusdude View Post
                        I'm almost positive that I read an article that says that Vudu outsources some of encoding duties. I thought it was this article (http://newteevee.com/2008/03/19/vudu...-options-open/), but that doesn't seem to be it. Still, NTV's article is very interesting...
                        I have yet to find an article about VUDU outsourcing but it could be true. There are plenty of CPU farms out there. Using those cycles you could save some money.

                        From my perspective its the quality of the final work that makes or breaks the product. I am sure that everyone is looking for that "automated" testing tool for video quality but its just not there. It's still the human eyes and ears that must grade the final product. Until we can plug in digitally to the brain to watch and listen to content, we still depend on the final analog product that our brains interpret.

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                          #192
                          Re: VUDU vs Satellite

                          Maybe Vudu should do a processor farm a la Boinc. Send out chunks of movie files out to anyhow who wants and then encode it and upload the data back to them. Hey, it works for SETI data!

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                            #193
                            Re: VUDU vs Satellite

                            Originally posted by RonV View Post
                            I have yet to find an article about VUDU outsourcing but it could be true. <snip>
                            I finally found the post from Hagen (http://forum.vudu.com/showpost.php?p...&postcount=9):

                            We are using DD+ 128 kbit/s for stereo and 256 kbit/s for 5.1.

                            DD+ can go beyond 448 kbit/s. It supports bitrates of up to 6Mbit/s (one of the reasons why it's not supported via S/PDIF).

                            We are using Dolby encoding software (I don't think there are any other solutions out there anyway for DD+ encoding).

                            Most encodes are done in house but we also use external companies to do the encoding for us based on our specifications.

                            I hope that answers your questions,

                            Hagen.

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                              #194
                              Re: VUDU vs Satellite

                              Originally posted by Rusdude View Post
                              I finally found the post from Hagen (http://forum.vudu.com/showpost.php?p...&postcount=9):
                              Well at least we know now...there is some outsourcing...anyone have any spare MIPS to sell to VUDU? Or do we really know what our VUDU's are doing when they are idle...it could be a CPU conspiracy since we can be the "outsourcer".
                              Last edited by RonV; 04-06-2008, 07:50 PM.

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                                #195
                                Re: VUDU vs Satellite

                                Originally posted by RonV View Post
                                Well at least we know now...there is some outsourcing...anyone have any spare MIPS to sell to VUDU? Or do we really know what our VUDU's are doing when they are idle...it could be a CPU conspiracy since we can be the "outsourcer".
                                It's still freaking me out that the dongle seems to be staring at me!!

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